Comments from our readers — Nov. 29, 2023

[EDITOR’S NOTE: Our registered readers sometimes leave a variety of opinion comments about the stories they read on The Citizen. Following are some of them.]


Commenting about “Consider the ‘Tamara-festo’ as you prepare to vote” are the following:

neilsullivan in reply to the_wing_t.

Hi Wing — That’s really interesting because I think things would have been pretty close. Shiny new sounds great until you get into the weeds. I was shocked when I went to the bus depot for a corn hole thingy and saw those massive buildings. Same thing with Trilith.

I am not necessarily no growth, but I am against growth without a thought out and vetted plan.

Moved into my house 20 years ago last week. There was nothing on 54 west of the Huddleston bridge other than Chevron, Walmart, and Home Depot. Now look at it. 54 may be a state road, but every building was a local choice.

I fear when the entertainment zone crowd get savvy, it will be too late.

the_wing_t replies:

Just imagine how much simpler and drama-free this election season would have been if Tamara and Vic would have just come out, been honest, and said they were for more growth and more dense housing and basically were on the side of our mayor and our city planner, instead of trying to duck and dodge and hide their true viewpoints on the issues? Just come out and state what your ideas really are….it’s really that simple.

drdrakeramoray replies:

yes, the Tamarafesto has made the the Bubble Is Magic campaign look savvy. Would not have thought possible.

Commenting on “All the reasons to say no to Councilwoman-elect Brown,” Esteban replies:

Since “Diversity” as currently used means choosing people based on their skin color, sex, gender, sexual preference, etc. rather than on their merits, yeah, a lot of aren’t down with that. We think it’s more important to have people with the right qualifications and principles than checking different boxes.

Likewise, “Equity” and “Inclusion” are words that are used to put a nice face on divisive and harmful policies.

FWIW, NY & CA have “housing shortages” along with high taxes, crime, high cost of living, etc. Some of us suspect it’s related to their left-wing political leadership. Others are convinced that, no it’s purely a coincidence. C’est la vie.

What does “housing stressed location” mean? Not trolling, please clarify. More expensive than it used to be? Very expensive compared to the average income statewide? Not enough available land to build enough housing for everyone who wants to live here?

Ambularia82 comments on letter “Hamas and the killing of innocents”:

wow! just… wow!

every time I read an opinion by Trey Hoffman I come away feeling a combination of nausea and irritation. Sometimes I consider leaving a comment, then decide not to enter into clap trap debates in public because I think they are mostly reductive and not worth the headache.

This time feels a bit different, and for that reason I have to speak to these accusations from a “leftist socialist millennial snowflake social justice wackjob” point of view.

The reason there is a rise in pro Palestinian sentiment is a function of a generational shift in maneuvering shifting forms of information in the age of social media and alternative news sources.

After having been the generation that witnessed 9/11 in our early adulthood, and subsequently went to war against what was sold to this country as a “War on Terror” for 20 yrs with little to nothing to come away with in terms of wins and multitudes of negative outcomes, we are exhausted with seeing death and destruction being sold to us as a turd in patriotic wrapping paper and see it as insufferable.

it should not come as a surprise that despite what knuckle dragging warmonger politicians, and the mainstream news keep trying to sell, our generation and Gen Z have been able to do what previous generations won’t. We learn from history and we are willing to adjust when we need to.

The quickness with which our government is willing to unequivocally back and the narrative fed to us about Oct 11th should mark a distinct departure from how the difference in the generational, political, and class divide views information.

Millenials and Gen Z are no longer willing to accept turning our backs on groups who have legitimate concerns of being harmed by the racism, bigotry, oppression and cruelty of institutions and Governments we pay into.

we do not accept the framing of our unwillingness to tolerate inhumane treatment of citizens and immigrants, the working class and people on the margins who often have limited means of advocacy.

This position is far from playing into victim mentality, we are fighting for the least of us. In the U.S. we recognized and protested the killing of black people by the police, on the border we protest separation of families trying to claim asylum, we accept the identity of Trans people and partnerships of LGBTQ couples, and In Palestine we detest the collective punishment and murder of people who are being starved and blown to bits with the help and consent of our government.

To us these are not culture wars, they are not trivial pursuits. these are issues of human rights. these are issues of importance because we see the humanity and the immediacy in uplifting the struggles of all people we share this world with.

Trey Hoffman would mock this position as ridiculous, while sitting at home railing against the “leftists” while trying to convince people that slavery was a good thing and women have no right to bodily autonomy because Jesus or whatever…

As a woman, I disagree with Trey Hoffman’s position on abortion. As a person with a fully functioning frontal lobe I disagree with his equating women who support the right to have an abortion with Islamic terrorists.

I admit to feeling triggered by that vapid assessment but like everything else he vomits into his weekly rants, I recognize that if he had an I.Q. higher than the temperature of his refrigerator we wouldn’t be privy to the delusional thoughts of those among us who make being decent a realistic goal.

I am not going to denounce or support conservatism or Liberalism here, in this rebuttal. my opinions on these matters is not the point I want to argue. I am just tired of hearing the condescending bloviating of windbags and beligerent people who criticize others endlessly without making any effort to understand the rationale behind ideas with which they disagree.

i especially find arguments that display a total lack of interest in reality a problem that adds nothing to how we communicate with one another. on that note I will go back to smoking weed with my fellow comrades and attending drag queen story hour.