Is this the next Fayette Commission chairman?

Commissioner Charles Oddo in an August 2013 meeting. Photo/John Munford.

Steve Brown’s position in play as critics challenge his leadership

If Commissioner David Barlow can get another vote next week, Commissioner Charles Oddo (in photo at right) will take the chairmanship from Commissioner Steve Brown.

As custom for the first meeting of the new year, the Fayette County Board of Commissioners next week will vote on who will be its chairman for the 2014 calendar year.

Due largely to behind-the-scenes political sparring, current commission Chairman Brown will be facing a challenge for his leadership role when the agenda item comes up at the commission’s Jan. 9 meeting.

Commissioner David Barlow confirmed Monday that he will support Commissioner Charles Oddo for chair this year, in large part because he feels Brown lacks true leadership skills. Barlow noted that his first preference was to have Commissioner Randy Ognio as chair, but Ognio is far too busy with his electrical business to have the time to handle the role.

While Barlow was complimentary of Brown’s work as a county commissioner, he had harsher words for his work as commission chairman.

“I have said publicly to a number of people that I think that Steve Brown is a dictator from his keyboard and that he is not a leader,” Barlow said. “... I’ve said that publicly bunches of times.”

Barlow’s keyboard comment stems from his unease with Brown writing letters to the editor and blogs which Brown signs at the end as “Fayette County Commission Chairman.” Barlow contends if Brown wants to publish his title with such writings, he should get input from his fellow commissioners before sending them, or instead simply sign it in his individual role as “Fayette County Commissioner.”

Below, left, Commissioner David Barlow.



“It gives the indication that we are in agreement with him, when actually we may not be in agreement with him,” Barlow explained.

Barlow said he has asked Brown to stop that practice “and he refuses to honor that.”

Barlow claims that Oddo already has experience with handling public relations duties for his company and will handle that portion of the job very well.

Brown contends Barlow’s problem is more of a personality conflict that developed early this summer when Barlow vocally supported then-Water System Director Tony Parrott in the middle of the weeks-long crisis involving foul smelling and bad tasting water delivered to homes, restaurants and businesses in the county.

Brown on the other hand was publicly critical of Parrott and urged for him to be fired, but ultimately with the support of the commission Parrott initially was disciplined instead of demoted, and several weeks later he was demoted for failing to make adequate progress on recovering from the foul water problem.

Parrott weeks after the incident admitted that he had incorrectly guessed at the cause of the smelly, foul water which was later attributed to equipment problems and improper procedures undertaken at the Crosstown Water Treatment Plant.

While the commission chairman’s role largely involves running the meetings, whoever is chairman by law is a voting member of the Atlanta Regional Commission, a planning agency for the 10-county metro area which controls the purse strings to federal and state transportation dollars.

Brown contends that he has been able to successfully lobby for $8 million in land acquisition funds for interchange improvements at Interstate 85 and Ga. Highway 74 just across the county line in Fairburn where many Fayette residents meet a choke point during their daily commute.

Brown said he is still pushing for a partial cloverleaf design that would allow southbound traffic leaving the interstate to spiral up to Hwy. 74 so it could merge into the southbound lanes, but the Georgia Department of Transportation hasn’t made a final decision yet.

Barlow, citing unnamed sources he has spoken to privately, counters that Brown is despised by his counterparts at the ARC to the point where they do not want to work with him on Fayette projects.

Barlow contended that Oddo would be a better fit with ARC in terms of working with other regional officials, and he added that Public Works Director Phil Mallon is really the county’s point man for transportation issues in the region.

“He understands the road conditions, the road needs, what the Georgia Department of Transportation will do,” Barlow said. “... Brown actually interferes with our ability to get along with, and potentially make long term arrangements with, the ARC.”

Brown said if Barlow’s goal is to agree with every cause advanced by ARC, then it would be counterproductive for Fayette County, in large part because Brown contends that attitude is what got Fayette included in a regional mass transportation plan several years ago.

Barlow also claims that Brown is interfering with regular county government operations, and he pointed to a push Brown is making to install a four-way stop on Redwine Road at the intersection of the Whitewater Creek and Highgrove subdivisions. Barlow says Brown promised the four-way stop to residents, even though it doesn’t meet the county’s regulations that require proof that a four-way stop is necessary.

Brown says the county should look at changing those regulations to accommodate a four-way stop, particularly because there have been close calls with golf carts crossing Redwine Road from one subdivision to the other. There is no room to put a tunnel under the road, Brown noted.

Below, left, current Commission Chairman Steve Brown.



When the matter is brought up for a vote by the commission, Barlow is free to vote against it, Brown said.

“I think everything I’m going to do from this point forward, he’s just going to kick sand at it, I guess,” Brown said.

Earlier this year, a provision of the county’s ethics ordinance prevented commissioners from becoming involved in dealing with county staffers; instead a previous informal policy was to have commissioners take issues to the county administrator to be handled appropriately as he saw fit.

But the current commission eliminated that restriction from the ethics ordinance earlier this year, citing that it prevented them from doing something as mundane as informing staff that a restroom was out of toilet paper, for example.

“It is what it is,” Brown said of his conflict with Barlow. “Unfortunately it’s more of a personality thing than an issues debate.”

Brown said he has tried to be “very civil and very professional about the way we conduct our business, and we have been extremely open and extremely transparent and have tried to reach out to the public whenever possible and I think we had a lot of productive results to show for it.”

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Pony up some dough for some fun-fun-fun

Brown, Barlow, Oddo, Ognio, and McCarty (aka BBOOM-ers of Fayette) have all just announced they are giving up their seats a week from Friday. They said they cannot enjoy one more moment together than already necessary, so they are having a raffle to the highest bidders:

The Premier Gala Celebration; Pinewood Studios

An evening of elegant cinematic excitement. 6:30PM arrival, 7PM hors d'oeuvres reception and a 7:45PM Premier Experience and stage tour to follow.

A golf cart procession down Hwy 54 will begin at 10PM, to move the after-party crowd to Truitt's Hawaiian Luau till 1AM, when they will have a brief but oh so Pineywood skinny dip in the waterfall (no tiki torches allowed) and then move further down Hwy 54 to Twisted Taco, where a burrito apres-party breakfast will be served till sun-up on the Lido deck up above. Sheriff Babb will provide the necessary rolling roadblock for all of the above and the state and local politicians will provide the necessary gas.

The BBOOM'ers announced they will be just too tuckered out after all the frivolity earlier Friday from the FC Chamber of Commerce Annual Meeting and Awards Luncheon from 11:30AM to 2PM at the Dolce, where Bob Ross, Vicki Turner and Doug Warner will hand out the most coveted award for OutStanding in a Fayette Field of Wheat Development Achievement to Brian Cooper, Frank Blake and Ivan Dunleavy. Mickey, Minnie, Pluto and Donald will be handing out a Disneying array of keepsakes honoring the announcement of the new Star Wars Theme Park to open in 2016 on Old Farm Rd. in Woolsey.

Harrison, Carrie and Mark will be red carpeted in from the Millennium Falcon via our very own Falcon Field. Klieg lights will shine all over the vast quietness of this rural and peaceful county, ushering in the dawn of a new and glorious beginning. (from the Book of G. Lucas, Vol. 3, Ch. 9, Verse 2:6)

May The Force Be With You.

Amen. (Yes, I do believe I may have brain freeze...12 degrees worth)

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Brown and Barlow

Commissioner Brown and I have disagreed on issues in these blogs and in the paper. I did not vote for him. However, I have been rather pleased with his perfromance to date and more importantly his focus on behaving in a mature manner on our behalf. Do I agree with all his actions no, but he deserves credit.

The biggest disagreement seems to be what to do about our water. Mr, Brown seems to think we should have clean modern water where Mr. Barlow seems to accept a more biblical taste to our water.

But what is Mr. Barlow's vision? What is his end game? More importantly who is behind his actions? Some have expressed regret how public this has become. I disagree. To the discomfort of some, actions like this need daylight and citizen input to guide what is best for Fayette not what is best for some in shadow. Mr. Barlow come out and discuss in your name like me and Commissioner Brown.

In 2014 let's disagree where we must but lets find places where we can work together on common ground for the good of the people of Fayette County.

Take Care,

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Biblical taste to our water

I like that Mr. Sullivan. Wish I thought of it, lol.

I don't know about anyone else, but I would like good, clean water for my family. Maybe Mr. Barlow prefers to change his water to wine in order to purify, lol.

I'm like you and call it like I see it. This past year, Mr. Brown exceeded my expectations. He is the only leader of the group, and the only one to offer an opinion of the water issues. When it comes to something important like water, I expect each on commission to have an opinion.

Mr. Barlow thought too highly of the former water head. Perhaps that he is getting too close to the county employees while enjoying their Christmas parties and condemning others if they don't have time to make all of them.

If anyone thought the stormwater splost was big, wait. About mid year, we are going to see a huge water splost or increase. Mark my word.

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This is one of the big questions. We need our commission to let the employees to do their jobs but to also set the vision and oversee the work done. In the case of the water, any Fayette County employee who thinks Mr. Parrot did his job needs to be drug tested. Those who pass lake water off as clean should be stoned with stones (Leviticus alternate translation)not given a slap on the wrist.

But this is the challenge we see it at the county, city and BOE level. I won't say we let the inmates run the asylum as we have many good hard working folks. With many long tenured employees, changes in the commission or other elected bodies is often the only opportunity to expose our processes and systems to fresh eyes and outside experience. We need to always question as what has worked in the past may not be what works in the future.

Trust but verify

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Trust but verify.

Our water is our most vital resource. We have members on the water committee that designed and were the engineers of record. Of course they are going to hide any problems.

But when the problem hit the fan, I expect our commission leaders to at least have an opinion. Brown was right, Barlow was wrong, and the 3 others had no opinion. Hands off.

I don't want commission meddling in the day to day stuff, but I do want them to be honest about the issues and certainly have an opinion.

Off the subject now, I see a former city councilman is stoking the fires on this issue and also PTC City Council warning the new council members to beware of the existing 3 having political agendas. Not good.

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I got an email about that blog this weekend. My email was attached to full name which suggests to me that it was given by the republican party.

I have done it with the Visioning so I will not claim to be blameless, but it seems with this, there is something else going on. It almost seems Captain Brown brought these guys to power and not the pirates are making him walk the plank. Before we imagine Commissioner Brown as a modern day Jack Sparrow.

It is interesting to see Barlow and Deinhart who are TEAs as is Mr. Ross king of visioning. I almost believe their actions are not as sinister as it all suggests but where there is stink there is poop.

take care and Go Noles

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Really Mr. Barlow?

I read a blog this morning that credits Barlow with the following statements.

"Brown anti-social and would not even come out to celebrate Christmas with the various department heads and their staffs. Barlow alluded that Brown only made an appearance after being “shamed into an appearance” by another County official."

"Brown is a “Digital Dictator” who rules by authoring letters to the editors, without talking to the various citizens of Fayette County."

So let me get this straight. Barlow is upset because Brown couldn't attend all of the county Christmas parties? Really?

Then he gets upset about Browns writing letter to the editor. Gosh Mr. Barlow, why didn't you have this problem when he was writing letters on your behalf to get you elected.

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There is a lot more to this.

Unfortunately, people all over the county, from the Chamber of Commerce and non-profits to homeowners associations, had been fed the grievances from the commissioner over a period of time.

It all comes down to whether you think the Water System and the old management was doing a good job or not. This was the real crux of the disagreement.

I truly wish we did not have the significant problems with the Water System and I also wish that we did not have to recently approve around $330,000 for engineers to come up with what will probably be an expensive fix to the facilities, but it is what it is.

There was no way I would defend the Water System Director and I could never say the Water System was in good working order.

If that costs me the chairmanship, so be it.

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Chairman Brown

If there was ever was a better reason for a Chairman of the BOC to speak publicly to those who use the water system in this county about a complete and utter failure of duties, responsibility and public trust than what Tony Parrott did this past summer, well, someone make it public, please.

As established by the Georgia Constitution and the Official Code of Georgia, County Commissioners in this State, including Fayette County, are charged with the responsibility of providing a system of local government services designed to "protect the health, safety, and welfare" of their citizens. County Commissioners are empowered to make policy and pass laws if necessary to meet their responsibilities.

I, myself, would rate safe drinking water right above public safety and any other health issue imaginable. Number 1 on the charts that, ultimately, any county commission board member is responsible for.

The paragraph above came directly from the county website under FAQs for BOC.
According to the most recent CAFR posted online, dated June 30, 2012, there are 27,821 customers of the county water system. Customers, not users. Multiply customers by how many have children, family members, employees, and customers (commercial businesses) using their customer water (account) and you would have an idea of the many more thousands of people who actually use the water provided by the county water system.

On August 15th, the EPD published a list of 10 drinking water rule violations,147 deficiencies in the water system and recommended that Parrot and 4 other employees be investigated for fraud, deception and/or incompetence. The very next evening, Barlow ranted from his seat in commission chambers, "I am taken aback by the unsubstantiated allegations being made against Mr. Tony Parrott, our water system director."

My, my, Mr. Barlow, unsubstantiated allegations? Let's see now, we had water that smelled and tasted like dead fish, we had dark brown water pouring out of water faucets, AND we had the State of Georgia listing actual violations of the law. With all of that, we had the one person in charge of making sure NONE of that happened, saying publicly, he guessed at the causes of the water issues. Guessed. For over $100k a year, with bennies, 30 years in the biz, a title of director, and he guessed.

Mr. Barlow, with your defense of this manager, where do you feel your actions have upheld your oath that you swore to the citizens of this county?

How else would any county chair make public this type of neglect without stating publicly he abhorred the neglect by the manager in charge?

How else would any county chair let the users of this precious water we all take for granted have acted, other than to make immediate and sweeping changes to the whole operation?

I, for one, am glad that this chairman took control, publicly and quickly, and if it was messy, upsetting, and not quite to your liking, well, see you at the polls, if not sooner.

This tirade of yours against the chairman speaks more of you, your character and your lack of leadership skills than anything else you have NOT accomplished in your term of office.

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I don't always agree with Mr. Brown, but he took charge and actually had an opinion. And guess what, he was right.

Mr. Barlow was 100% wrong, made a fool of himself, and the other 3 had no opinions.

No .... Opinions? That's not leadership

We're about to be hit with some serious water issues in 2014. In my mind, the only one to walk us thru this is Mr. Brown. All the other lack the chutzpah.

Let them vote like they think they must, but I can assure you, like Mr. Brown or not, he's the only one of the five with the gumption to get us clean water quickly.

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All commissioners were elected at large by the people to represent the whole county. All five have the same status.

The chairman is elected by the five commissioners to represent the commissioners.

When a commissioner signs a letter chairman, he is then representing the other commissioners. If he is unwilling to share what he is doing with the commission, the other commissioners have the right to feel outraged at the lack of respect for their opinion or position.

Who spoke to the press first on the subject of chairman? Mr. Brown or Mr. Barlow?

Who would benefit more by causing a stir? The story seems to have ignited the cyber bullies against Barlow. I think Mr. Barlow was asked a question by the Citizen concerning comments made by Mr. Brown. He did not start the story.

Any of the five commissioners would be able to run the meetings.

The commission has done a good job with its public face and I suggest they be left to determine the leadership among themselves.

It is my understanding that commissioner contact with county employees is to be limited and county employees are directed by the county administrator, not a commissioner.

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Duh Voter!!!

Did you read the news story???

“I have said publicly to a number of people that I think that Steve Brown is a dictator from his keyboard and that he is not a leader,” Barlow said. “... I’ve said that publicly bunches of times.”

Who in the heck do you think started it??? Duh!

Shame on David Barlow and Charles Oddo for going all over the county and spreading this kind of trash talk in public!!! NO CLASS!

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johenry & 'spreading'

Pls provide an example of Comm. Oddo doing what you have accused him of doing--don't think you can find one.

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Oh please AtHomeGym!!!

Do you really think that Charles Oddo and David Barlow are not in cahoots on this???

It ain't rocket science.

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johenry & 'rocket science'

So is that your final answer? No proof huh? That's what I thought--and you talk about 'class'!

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Oddo drug into a mess he didn't create

Of all the county commissioners, he's the one I thought would be the best to serve and definitely supported him when he ran and was subsequently elected It's a shame that a spat with Brown and Barlow has his name being thrown around(and he totally denied it anyway just to make it clear.)

This isn't a power-play by Oddo....it's Barlow going off the rails yet again and dragging him into this soap opera that sounds more like a lover's quarrel between him and Brown.

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Your right NUK

I don't believe Oddo started this at all. I understand he has been out of the country visiting his wifes family.

This is all Barlow and its being fueled by an ex PTC councilman.

I have to disagree with you on the chairman though. Oddo is a nice guy, but he's not chairman material.

No matter how much we all dislike Mr. Browns past, he has improved, and he was the only commissioner who had an actual opinion on the water problems. Yea, Barlow had an opinion but he likes biblical water (Thanks Mr. Sullivan. We are going to need someone to lead the water fix once the report is complete. 4 of the 5 on commission have shown no leadership.

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Ex-PTC Councilman fueling the Barlow fire?

Who dat? Rapson was a city councilman abour 10 years ago, but I don't think he turned on Brown - yet. That will happen eventually, BTW.

Who else? Deinhart? I thought that was you or you were Deinhart.

I guess Haddix was a councilman first, but he has disappeared.

Can't think of anyone else pulling Barlow's string.

And I disagree with you - Oddo would be a great chairman. You have obviously lived through Brown and Haddix and their antics and think that's normal behavior for a leader. No, its not. Let's try calm and mature for a change.

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There is a new blog making the rounds and it certainly shows someone's colors. You can find it pretty easy if you do a search.

Oddo is a nice guy, but not a leader. When the water issues hit the fan, we are going to need a bulldog.

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Bulldogs do drink a lot of water, but they slobber as well

In fact, the slobber from a bulldog will stain your yuppie corduroys. You don't make any sense. Who is the ex-councilman you keep referring to and what is that all about? Huh?

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Start looking at Facebook. Type in some names and you can figure it out

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H&F and Water Fix

The Board of Commissioners doesn't need to be micro-managing Steve Rapson. He gets paid to make things work and that includes the Water System and our new Water System Manager. Obviously he inherited a system that where true management and leadership had been missing for some time.

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H&F and Water Fix

The Board of Commissioners doesn't need to be micro-managing Steve Rapson. He gets paid to make things work and that includes the Water System and our new Water System Manager. Obviously he inherited a system that where true management and leadership had been missing for some time.

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Best Interest of the County

I never said the BOC was to micro manage. We all know that's Rapsons job. However, there will be a lot of decisions that must be made with the methods and costs for the fixes. Having someone with limited experience will not be in the best interest of the county.

I don't want them to micromanage. But I do expect them to have an opinion of the water system. Only one person had the guts to put it out there.

I certainly understand that this problem was 20 years in the making and of NO fault to present commission.

And by the way, there are more than one on the board micromanaging now.

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H&F and Micromanaging

So would you share with us just who--in your view, is micromanaging who? A charge like that deserves amplification/clarification or else it has zero credence.

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Micromanaging

None of the commissioners is micromanaging anything.

We do have commissioners pitching-in at times, mainly meeting with constituents and researching things, due to low staffing levels, but this is done in conjunction with the County Administrator.

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All 5 commissioners voted themselves the option to interact with county employee business. Some of us saw this as wrong, but Barlow wants to make sure there is TP in the restroom and his Tyrone restaurants pass the health code. We all knew Mr. Brown would push the envelope.

I don't consider Mr. Brown using his title in his letters as speaking for all. For gosh sakes, they all think its impressive putting their titles on the Facebook pages.

All I know is my personal dealings. When I wrote to all, I got responses from Mr. Rapson, Mr. Brown and Mr. Barlow. None of the other 3 knuckleheads took the time to care about my issue.

Mr. Rapson and Mr. Browns responses were quick, factual, and provided me the options I needed to know. Mr. Barlows response was dismissive, saying, he would allow someone else to respond. Both Mr. Rapson and Brown followed up with me. Mr. Barlow and the other 3 still have not and unless I see a complete turn around, will not be on my next ballot.

This doesn't seem like a story started by the chairman. It appears Mr. Barlow wasn't bright enough to keep his opinion to himself and just vote for who he wanted.

Tell me Voter, or anyone else. Can you provide me 4 demonstrations of leadership for each commissioner, and then tell us who and then why one would be best in front of the ARC and state in getting FC it's just due.

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I think the paper could and should clear up who brought this subject to life.

Mr. Barlow is on the Health board and the State does the inspection. I understand that all commissioners are offered the opportunity to ride along and observe the inspection.

Limited contact by commissioners with directing county employees was the intent of the change. Mr. Rapson is the main contact for commissioners to deal with county employees.

I have confidence in all members of the commission and all would do well as chairman. It is a shame that this matter was not handled internally. Rotating a chair person would be a good idea. Who let the cat out of the bag?

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Should never be able to contact county employees. It places undue pressures on them to perhaps do something they are uncomfortable doing, out of fear. If a commissioner wants something, they should go thru proper channels.

Now we see why.

You didn't answer my question. It's been a year. Name 4 things each commissioner did individually to show their leadership. I just want to see what some have done to be worthy of the leadership position. Change is good if people have logical reasoning. Personality clashes will happen in every group.

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Barlow complains about Brown

Getting too involved, yet he is following health inspectors doing their jobs inspecting restaurants in his town of Tyrone.

Why is that?

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H&F, Barlow, and Food Inspections

I suspect he would tell you it has to do with being a member of the Board of Health--but then again, maybe he's just looking for a safe place to eat!

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Sort of a ride along to learn
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Is he getting too involved in the day to day?

Just happened to be inspecting Tyrone. Coincidence?

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What Does Chuck Oddo Have To Say?

While John Munford has given us Commissioner Barlow's opinion, and he has included a few comments from Commission Chairman Steve Brown, he should have interviewed Commissioner Oddo.

Even though Fayette taxpayers don't have a say in who the next Commission Chairman will be, I think we should certainly have a comparative interview from Mr. Oddo.

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Ginga & Oddo Interview

He's been in another country for the holidays.

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First, if Barlow had a brain,

First, if Barlow had a brain, he wouldn't have played this out in the paper.

However, since he likes the spotlight, he opened his pie-hole and shown his true self to Mr. Brown and FC.

Once Barlow spoke, Oddo should have been interviewed along with Ognio and McCarty in order to get the whole picture.

However, what have any of the 3 had to say or do, this past year?

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Dienhart--Oddo Response

That's exactly what I would have expected him to say. Bluster, as some have and do demonstrate, is simply not his style. Because he reacts in a considered, careful manner, you would be mistaken to think that he is a pushover for someone else's position on any issue.

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Commission Form of Government

Read an article the other day that pointed out that while still the most popular form of governance, the commission form is on the decline. More counties are now hiring an administrator because of the different and often complicated duties and services to be provided associated with the running of a county government. It makes sense to me in that you take the amateurs like we have on the county commission now out of that process.

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BTR & Commission Govt

Surely you know that we HAVE an experienced Administrator who manages the day-to-day business & activities of the County Govt. And if you want to get rid of amateurs, let's start at the top of the US Govt!

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AHG : Commission Government

Yes, I am aware that Fayette County has an experienced administrator. But he is appointed by the county commissioners and that is not what I was referring to.

Most U.S. counties use one of three forms of government.

The largest number of counties use the "commission" form, in which a board of commissioners -- or sometimes a lone commissioner -- runs the county’s day-to-day operations.

The second is the "administrator/manager" form of government, by which commissioners hire someone to run the county’s operations, like Fayette County. And in Georgia, In Georgia, about two-thirds of the state’s 159 counties use the administrator/manager form.

The third is the "elected executive" form where county residents vote for someone to lead and run the government.

More counties are moving toward hiring an administrator (as Fayette County does) or electing an executive because of the array of duties associated with operating a county government and as things get more complicated and counties have more services to provide.

My original comment was in response to the amateurs we seem to keep electing here in Fayette County to serve as county commissioners.

Maybe its time to have a dialogue about the third option where we elect a professional to run the county in a professional manner and take the reins from people like The Brown Clown and The Silver Haired Preacher Man.

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Or, we could just elect the right people for the right reasons

Shelia Huddleston would have solved 2 problems for us - we would never have seen Barlow on the dais and she would have been easily tapped to be the chairperson - keeping Brown and his letter writing on the back bench. See how nice and easy that would have been.

Need I again mention Cyndi Plunkett being rejected for the Haddix goofball? People called her a developer's tool. So what? We wound up with just a tool.

I don't think the system is broke, I think the voters need to step it up a bit and do some research. I also think that Cal used to provide a great service with an extensive Q & A format right before elections. Think that was scrapped because of lack of advertising revenue or something. But it was good and you could learn something about the candidates.

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Agree mudcat

If only, mudcat. I'm with you on Sheila and Cyndi. I don't know what it is with Fayette and PTC voters except people 'round here are more interested in keeping their golf carts charged up than taking the time to vote. And the ones that do vote seem to be one note voters and fall for the "no-growth" spiel spouted by the likes of The Brown Clown and Donnie Darko. I'll give them credit though...they know how to stoke the fires of anti-development and keep the sheeples scared of a Kohl's store. I'm not for unbridled growth but there are more issues than growth facing us and it would behoove voters to look at those other issues when voting. Said it before....will say it again. As Alexis de Tocqueville wrote in his study of “Democracy in America”, we get the government we deserve. And if we keep electing Brown Clowns and Donnie Darkos then we deserve what we are getting.

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Barlow

I am not too impressed with either of these gentlemen. But Barlow hit a low point when he defended the Water Director by saying that Tony Parrott was "one of the County's finest". His comment indicated that he either did not know what he was talking about or that he was deliberately trying to mislead the public on Mr. Parrott. Either one would mean his opinion is either not meaningful or is dishonest. Take your pick. I personally would like to see somebody else get a chance to be the Chairman; but Barlow comes across as somebody that needs to be replaced asap (his next election).

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Barlow Justified his point very well

Although the county personnel issues were touched on, there are a number of improper dismissals that were not mentioned. Most all were replaced by personal friends of Mr Brown or ones that align themselves with him. Do some research and you can see for yourself.
This is not good for the county.

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I can't believe it

30yearresident like the other Brown haters keeps trash talking but never backs it up. Who are those personal friends??? Why do we have to do the research because you should tell us. More nasty trash talking!!!

I just got through writing this under another story. They just multiply like rats.

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30YrResident

If Mr. Barlow lives up to his campaign promises:

Leadership by Example with Integrity
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YES to Accountability with Transparency

He would make all of this public and file an ethics charge. Until he does this, its all speculation. Present the facts.

And remember, Mr. Barlow approved the changes to the ethics rules that allow he and all other commissioners to get involved.

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Why should we care what Barlow thinks?

This article implies we should give weight to Barlow's opinion yet provides no rationale - I could care less what Barlow thinks - should I?

Steve

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Obviously SB is your man

Everybody is entitled to an opinion.

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Town Hall Meetings and SPLOST

The recommendation for a stormwater SPLOST came from citizens attending the Town Hall Meetings that were conducted by our BOC.

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Agree with David Barlow

Yes, I agree that Steve Brown is a dictator from his keyboard. During three meetings regarding the stormwater tax, all he could talk about was a SPLOST. Look how all that ended up.

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All 5 wanted the stormwater splost

Like I said early last year. All 5 are weak leaders. They wanted to please the loud people because they all promised to open up the dialogue and allow everyone to be heard. The town hall meetings were a lynch mob, while those who didn't object stayed home. The pitchfork wielding folks won the battle and lost the war.

All were weak and all touted the splost as the next best thing to sliced bread.

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I think very highly of Steve Brown

I would be very disappointed to see someone else as chairman.

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Wait until he has to run in his own district...

He was for that too before he was against it. Among other things.

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Condition55

Would you care to go back to the days where citizens were screamed at by the commission chairman for wanting to stand in silence for one second?

How about having a commissioner arrested for possession?

What about a commissioner misrepresenting his cousin as a church acquaintance to serve on the Elections Board?

How did you feel about a former commission chairman serving on the Board of Directors of a local bank that was, by the bank president, stated to be "for developers?" While our former commission chairman was serving on that Board, he was also making development decisions for the county.

Did it not look questionable that our former county administrator set-up the county employee retirement plan and immediately retired?

Then, there is the little matter of our former county attorney removing his county issued computer and hard drive and returning them with all county information erased. By the way, our former county administrator, in an interim position, supposedly gave the county attorney permission to remove the county owned (taxpayer owned) computer/hard drive from the county offices.

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Brown could use some mellowing out

He has tried to wash off his spots, but they keep coming back.

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Not this time, spyguy. The meeting was tonight and he's out

Fayette County Commission just met and elected David Barlow as Chairperson. The vote was 4-0. Everybody was there except Steve Brown. They told him the meeting was next Thursday. Go figure, I didn't think Alan had it in him. Good job, dude.

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Awesome

SB the divider. If this is true, the County is ahead of the game.

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that is very tacky!

"They told him the meeting was next Thursday. " You are joking aren't you? I have no respect for them after that.

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RWM's Bad Try At Humor

Bad try, RWM.

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He's messing around

Just being funny

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Divide and Conquer

When mayor of PTC Brown was famously condecending and arrogant. He routinely denegrated the people who came to speak at the meetings there.

Read the long string of articles in this fair newpaper and understand the history.

He positions himself as the champion of righteousness, the champion of great ethical conduct. He got office talking about the previous commission members like the were dogs. He bad mouthed half of the Fayette county administration just after taking office like they were a pack of criminals.

But what about the east and west bypasses and the splost money ?

Really he seems like a guy who wants to be king..... the king of fayette county.

Maybe it wears thin in the council chambers.

Even if he survives in the lead role, like humpty dumpty it is sure to come down around him soon after.

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There Are Two Sides

I have to say that I am extremely upset and disappointed in the latest turn of events in the divisiveness within our county commission.

I worked tirelessly on the campaigns of all five commissioners. It was very apparent that each gentleman had the best interest of Fayette citizens at heart. However it seems there is a personality conflict among the five.

My goal in working on the commissioners’ campaigns was to install the people who were committed to the welfare of Fayette citizens.

The year 2013 saw a dramatic change with our county commission. Under the leadership and guidance of Steve Brown, our commission meetings were brought from two dictatorial heavy-handed chairmen to all encompassing inclusion of Fayette citizens in the spending of our taxes and the voicing of our opinions.

I was among a group of citizens who were screamed at by a previous commission chairman when the group just wanted to briefly and silently stand for one second to show the commission how many people supported our position. Before we were even completely out of our seats, we were immediately ordered to sit down. Our money was paying for a project we didn’t agree with, but the commission chairman dictated that we could not even be seen, let alone heard.

Steve Brown changed all of that.

When a group of citizens asked one of our former commission chairmen, as our representative on the ARC if he voted to bring mass transit to our county, at first, he said that he had not. Then when another citizen pressed the issue, that chairman said, “Well I was just one vote.” In other words, he “went along to get along” with the ARC!

I worked on Steve Brown’s campaign because I wanted my representative with the ARC to be someone who had the courage to represent what the citizens of Fayette County want. He was the only one who had experience working with the ARC.

Over the last forty-five years of living in Fayette County, I’ve not seen another commission chairman who has accomplished all that Steve Brown has for the citizens.

I want a commissioner and a chairman who will work for all the citizens of Fayette County, and I sincerely hope and pray that our commissioners can care enough about the people who elected them to put aside their personal issues with each other to continue to work for us. On June 16, 1858 at the Illinois State Capitol in Springfield, U.S. Senate nominee Abraham Lincoln said, “A house divided against itself cannot stand.” More recently and within our own county, we have seen the wisdom in Abraham Lincoln’s words.

For all who read this article, I ask that you also take the time to read Steve Brown’s Letter To The Editor in this edition of The Citizen titled, “Year of change, cooperation.”

The accomplishments listed within that letter are the results of cooperation and leadership.

Please note at the end of Mr. Brown’s letter it states that the letter was “reviewed/approved by each commissioner.”

At the Commission Meeting on January 9, 2014 the Commission Chairman will be selected by the entire Board. You may present Public Comments on this subject and any others at that meeting.

Ginga Smithfield

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Merely Chickens coming home to Roost

When you elect contentious commissioners who run AGAINST people and ideas instead of FOR anything, should it surprise you that they don't really get along?

BTW - Lincoln is quoting a man of much more gravity than than he when warning against a divided house.

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STF: Exactly right

Every now and then, leaders have to be for something instead of against this/that/everything else. Brown has no idea how to do this besides touting "TRANSPARENCY" non-stop. The actual acts of governance have confused Brown since he has only been elected twice now by running totally against everything and demonizing his opponents, while also getting slaughtered twice in other elections.

The irony is that Brown stuck his neck way out(and stomped on the truth) to help get Deadbeat Dave Barlow elected and now Barlow turns on him. If this is a reminder of what happened to the Brown Council in PTC also....congrats for paying attention, people.

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Totally agree

We need a leader that can try to do his best but to put someone that demoralizes other officials just shows he is weaker than what he utters. A commissioner with a positive outlook is better than a Commisioner with a mouth full of blame game rants and negativity is not what Fayette county needs. So as far as for me Charles Oddo! Just my opinion, don't attack me for this.

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Awesome

So his role as chair is not in play then. Right ?

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What I read between the lines is

that Brown will not be a puppet and Oddo has experience in doing as he is told.

ZoeS

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FC elect

Commisioner CHARLES ODDO...he will be great!

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Zoes & 'reading between the lines'

I think FC Citizens would be best served if you ceased 'reading between the lines'. You have succeeded in mischaracterizing Commissioner Oddo, I assure you. Why not stop by and have a chat with him--that way you get info straight 'from the horse's mouth' and won't have to interpret someone else's rambling.

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In fairness

I fairness character bashing is great if true but a man with great attitude and for the people not ego is what will be great for this county. CHARLES ODDO... No harsh words needed for my opinion. I enjoy and respect reading but the negativity or bashing is a cowardly path.

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H&F Did Citizen Bob ever answer your question?

That would be interesting to know when pondering this.

Happy New Year

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No Sir, he did not

I'm afraid he sidesteps and dodges these questions.

The Fayette Vision is important, but I am afraid that commissions promise to get citizens involved is only for the non-important items. The Vision has commission written all over it and they just won't admit it.

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H& F Some Good news

If you look at Dawn Oparah's letter, while she forgets to mention that she is a VP with the NAACP, she does say the orignal trip was organized by the Chamber which she is part of.

Again no problems with visioning. I do these exercises as part of long range planning and budgeting but.... There seems to be an agenda that is not shared with the unwashed masses of Fayette County.

But facts by pulling of a thousand hairs never works. This thing is starting to smell worse and worse as we are fed selected facts and people forget to disclose affiliations that may shade their information.

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Neil, I have been following

The letters to the editor by members of the committee. And I have no issue with any of them. The issue I have is that the county promised to be transparent, and when none of them deny its really a county initiative, it chaps my butt. Citizen Bob is a close friend of the commission, so we know he's taking orders from them. The way the committee just fell from the sky is way to suspect.

The county has their hands all over it, but just won't admit it to us unwashed folks. Some of us who care and would have liked the opportunity to have a serious say instead of some token survey and last minute notices of meetings held the middle of a work day.

In addition, they still don't have enough money raised to pay for the consultant, so where is the balance coming from? You think Market place is really doing this on an IOU? (I know the county is listed on their webpage as a client and not Fayette Vision)

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H&F Sometimes committees do fall from the sky

The ESPLOST committee that become Fayette Citizens from Children formed after a public FCBOE briefing where a few citizens decided if the ESPLOST were to pass we couldn't trust the BOE or the usual suspects especially after the presentation we saw as it was way to wonky and dense. We tried to be open as possible to the point of me posting our quarterly report on this blog. I have really come to appreciate the power of transparency maybe not the rocks that come with it, be so be it.

I do not have any problem with the people or thought of visioning. But as you said consultants do not take IOUs. Consultant contracts have deliverables, timelines, KPIs, and project goals. These should be public. How the consultants were selected should be made public. Who else was considered? Until we figured out he was not a Fayette Citizen. We had a person from the company who sells bonds to FCBOE trying to help us. We got rid of him when we figured it out in the first two weeks.

Too many people think if they were open they would be subject to personal attack as we have seen before. It is very interesting that the usual vast conspiracy theroy people are real quiet on this one.

Take Care

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Spyglass, Read SB's Letter To The Editor

The 2013 accomplishments listed in that letter are the result of leadership and cooperation. That can't be denied. The end of the letter states that it was "reviewed/approved by each commissioner."

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I stand by statement that he is a divider..otherwise

This wouldn't be a discussion.

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SB and leadership have never gone hand in hand.

He is a divider, and a very good one I must say.

How long did it take for him to divide this Council?

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Spy - Who would you recommend as Chair?

Which one of the 4 has actually led a real initiative this past year?

They all follow Brown and acquiesce to him. Have any of them really stood up to him?

I'm no Brown fan, but who else is there, really?

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Chair?

Just because Steve brown was a mayor in PTC doesn't make you better than others from other areas. His opinions are that, citizens didn't vote him back for a reason.

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Any of them not named Brown

I just do not like his style. Only official in the County who has been worse lately in my opinion was Haddix.

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Okay, Spy

Say someone new is named chair.

Do you think 2014, will be a good year in FC politics?

I believe, if someone new is elected chair, than Mr. Brown will go back to his old tactics and commission meetings will start to be acrimonious again.

Just a thought.

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I am sure this very discussion has put a burr in his saddle

He will try and take it out on someone in some way. It is just his style. His way or the highway. The County can't say they weren't warned.

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Spy - another issue

If he isn't elected chair, there will certainly be some in-house problems since the county administrator and Steve are pretty tight.

Barlow has to remember that he opened this up by agreeing to alter the ethics rules allowing commission more leeway with the county employees.

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Steve wants his citizens to

Steve wants his citizens to know what is being done and what needs to be done. So he writes letters to the editor. I guess, as usual, some want things done on the sly so the good old boys can continue business as usual. I enjoy Steve's letters. He has become a much better writer and he tells me what I need to know. Never once have I thought that his signature with Chairman of the Fayette Commissioners meant that he was speaking for all the commissioners. If it has come to complaining about that I think we know how
bogus this guy is. People don't like Steve because he rocks the boat. Anyone who objects to that should be the one to go.

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au contraire mon frere

Sometimes rocking the boat is good. Sometimes it is not. It is never a good idea to rock the boat at ARC or DOT where we as a county are sometimes openly and usually privately ridiculed and excluded from many things because of Brown's antics as commission chair and an actual voting member of ARC! Does everybody realize he's a voting member of ARC? Just because he was selected commission chair by 2 or 3 other commissioners, he is automatically a voting member of ARC. At least when Haddix was on ARC or something like that, the other mayors voted to fire him - quickly too.

It would be better if someone other than Barlow brought this up, but what matters is somehow getting 3 votes to make Oddo our public face at the state level. Brown is out anyway when district voting kicks in and the next year or maybe 2 is going to be dedicated to his running for some other office - at least that will be his focus. How is that going to help the county and its interaction with ARC and DOT. Who has a better chance of making the 74/I-85 interchange friendly to Fayette County? Brown or Oddo? Think people. Be practical.

And you are correct Mr. Webster, his writing has improved. That is something that comes with maturity, so maybe in the next 10 years he will actually mature. Next step would be to limit the number of words used so they fit on 1 page. Cal should be policing that, but it is his paper and he can do what he wants. Come to think of it, he can also endorse political candidates. Maybe his weighing in on Brown vs. Oddo would shine a spotlight on the issue. Oh yea, he already did that on page one yesterday. Godd job, Cal. Now it is up to 3 county commissioners (probably the 3 new ones) to give us the leadership and representation we deserve.

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RWM

It has been a full year. Which one other than Brown has shown any leadership?

That right, none, nada.

I am in no way a Brown fan, but out of the 5, he is the only one that has shown leadership. Oddo is a nice guy, very diplomatic, but not one you want pushing to get the job done. Ognio, really? Can't put a coherent sentence together. McCarty doesn't want it. Barlow? come on now.

Do we really want a political neophyte representing us on the ARC?

Despite my dislike for Steve due to past issues, he is getting better and is certainly a better leader than the others who have shown no individuality.

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Which one, you ask? Any of the other 4 would be better

Or anybody listed on the first 100 pages of the Rotary phone book.

As to your point of "showing leadership". He's the appointed leader or elected by 3 of the others, so for better or worse he has been the actual leader all the past year. When and how exactly do the others exert leadership? When he has called in sick or is on vacation?

Oddo will be fine. He will be businesslike, professional and truly have the best interests of the county above his own. Try that last sentence out on Brown or any of the others and see if they can hit all 3 of those points.

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RWM, I don't like it too, but the facts remain

Certainly the others on commission can demonstrate leadership, but none have besides Barlow bringing in various religious leaders for the prayer, or his standing up to Brown on the Parrott issue. Parrott should have been fired and Barlow just likes wants everyone to get along.

Oddo, is truly a nice guy, but he hasn't shown me that he has accomplished anything to date. He also voted to extend his and fellow commissioners power to intervene in county doings.

We all know Steve wants to catapult himself to bigger and better, and I don't like him any more than you do, but I'm afraid to say, he's probably the best we have as a leader.

You will see at the end of Steve's letter, every commissioner signed off on it. They all agree the county is on the upswing and that we are in line for $8M upgrade at 74/I85 in 2015.

Putting any of the 4 in front of the ARC or DOT will just slow down the process in my humble opinion. They are just too inexperienced.

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Mr. Barlow - please stop the nonsense

Lets take a look at the issues Mr. Barlow has and discuss.

County ethics - Mr. Barlow is annoyed that Mr. Brown pushes the envelop. Well Mr. Barlow, you voted to allow this knowing full well what would happen. All because you wanted to be able to ask the custodian to refill the toilet paper.

Tony Parrott - He should have been fired. Wait until we get the report from the engineers. You will find he neglected his reaponsibilities for years. We're still waiting for you to throw the stone you promised.

Mr. Brown signing his letters with his title - Are you serious? Jealous? It is his title and I for one don't think he signs for everyone on commission. Steve's a good self promoter. We know you can also write letters to the editor providing your thoughts. Seems like a petty problem you've got.

ARC.- Have you ever heard the saying, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. A nice and inexperienced quiet guy like Mr. Oddo will get nowhere with state officials.

Now lets talk about your recommendation for Chairman.

1. Mr. Ognio is too busy with his electrical business. He isn't a good choice. We need someone who can string a full sentence together without stumbling. Since he is too busy with work, I was wondering if his electrical business profited in any way by Pinewood? A lot of people are wondering.

2. Mr. Oddo - real nice guy, but not a leader. Let him take care of his day job.

I really think you are taking these stances because you crave the chairman position yourself. That would be a mistake for the county.

It seems to me that perhaps your memory isn't that good. It was Mr. Brown who worked tirelessly to get you, a two time bankrupsey filer, elected in a conservative county. He alone stretched the truth, worked the system to get you elected. As a former Army man, I would have thought you would have more loyalty to your mentor.

I have not been a fan of Mr. Brown, but I have to call a spade a spade. He and you are the only ones that answer my emails. He however has a response, while you offer nothing of substance. Which is much better than the other 3, who choose not to reapond.

Whether I like his politics or not, Mr. Brown has my support as chair, due to the rest of you lacking any leadership skills at all.

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Finally some reason

After reading this article I had to respond.

First: The article says "Barlow contends if Brown wants to publish his title with such writings, he should get input from his fellow commissioners before sending them, or instead simply sign it in his individual role as “Fayette County Commissioner.”

Since when does someone with a title have to ask others if he has permission to use it? Is this in the rules somewhere or is Mr. Barlow just making up things as he goes? He was not saying the board agreed or disagreed with him...just posting his title..which he has every right to do! Why does Mr. Barlow think that anyone needs his permission or his approval? Has he brought this up in a board meeting where other commissioners have a voice or is this just what Mr. Barlow 'thinks' should be done...in which case Mr. Brown is under no obligation to comply.

Second: the quote "Barlow, citing unnamed sources he has spoken to privately, counters that Brown is despised by his counterparts at the ARC to the point where they do not want to work with him on Fayette projects."

Unnamed sources...really? Is this third grade? Unless you can present a complaint that is legitimate then you have none! Unnamed sources do not qualify as legitimate! You have given no examples of problems you say he’s caused with ARC, so this is another example of Mr. Barlow trying to make one of his coworkers look bad. Mr. Brown disagrees with Mr. Barlow, and Mr. Barlow takes things out of context to make Mr. Brown look bad. I cant imagine any one of us that would like to have people in the shadows accusing us of things and we have no way to defend ourselves. Mr. Brown should not be put in this position either. The only time I've seen people use this type of attack is when those saying these things are cowards, using someone else, or there are no “others” at all.

It has been my experience that there is a personal issue between these two. For Mr. Barlow to use the paper to air that is what is not professional. I had an issue where something was approved, a commissioner went out of town and Mr. Brown was trying to help. Mr. Barlow jumped in and said all kinds of things that was not true, and misrepresented other things. All because Mr. Brown was involved and he was trying to make him look bad. Again, a personal issue between these two, that appears to be quite one sided, that was being played out in the public arena.

Why dont we look at Mr. Barlow's record. What has he done in 2013? What about the water issue? Mr. Brown was right, Mr. Barlow not. Did Mr. Brown, by being right, insult Mr. Barlow's ego? Is that what this is about?

I would suggest that Mr. Barlow do what the bible says, since he is so fond of quoting scripture. You wont see anywhere that taking pot shots at people in the shadows or using anonymous sources is ever condoned. If Mr. Barlow thinks that Mr. Oddo would be a better chairman, fine, he has a right to support him. Mr. Oddo is a fine man and would do a good job, that’s not the issue. If Mr. Oddo votes against Mr. Barlow, or if Mr. Oddo is right and Mr. Barlow wrong, will he be out talking about him like he is Mr. Brown? There is no need to attack Mr. Brown on a matter of opinion...just support who you want. Using this to show the world personal bad feelings about a coworker is not professional at all. Now, I'm sure I'll be on the hit list next, but Mr. Brown has been more than helpful to a lot of people and doesn't deserve this at all.