FreeSpeech for 10-06-10

Outdoor burning ban is lifted. That’s great. Just when the weather cools down and we can turn off the air conditioning and open the windows. Guess we will have to hold our breath until the ban goes back into effect. Why can’t you just be a good neighbor and bag it and take it to the recycling center?

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Nothing lowers the quality of life in a town more than that angry, thumping, heartbeat noise that is popular with a few idiots and their “pimped” cars. I’m trying to have a nice evening on my back porch and suddenly it feels like there’s an earthquake or explosion somewhere. It’s a LOUD bass noise. I can’t believe this is acceptable in Peachtree City. Then I realize the source of the noise and I can’t help but feel like I live in some sort of ghetto. Low quality living. I don’t know where these individuals come from, but I think it’s time we silence the blaster tubes in their cars. Extremely loud noises are universally unacceptable. I should not have to tolerate sonic assault. It is a violation and these youngsters should be taught what is and isn’t appropriate and considerate in a civilized society. I am asking, as a citizen of Peachtree City, that the police please step up enforcement of the noise ordinances. Toughen the penalties if necessary. I know I’m not the only one who feels this way. If you live near Ga. Highway 74, Peachtree Parkway, Robinson, Crosstown, or Hwy. 54, you definitely know what I’m talking about. Let’s find a solution to this growing problem. This is the #1 quality of life issue in Peachtree City, as far as I’m concerned. Thanks for reading my rant.

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I was sorry to hear the PTC Council is still considering a ban on gas carts. I use the paths for walking and for my electric cart and have for seven years, and during that time I have very seldom encountered a gas cart. I don’t believe there are that many here. The carts are not that loud and the smell of fumes lasts only a few seconds as they pass. They certainly do not pollute the the air as much as the numerous semi-trucks that travel Hwy. 54 through town day and night. I also don’t recall any of the council members saying they would ban gas carts before the last election. To do it now would be unfair and an abuse of power. What next, will they mandate hybrid autos for all citizens in the city? We are all hunkered down now waiting to see what the federal government will do to us next. We shouldn’t have to worry about our City Council in the same way.

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Thought I’d seen it all until I saw a bicyclist on Hwy. 54 in the middle of town, texting while driving a bicycle through town. I was behind him for a while and thought he was either drunk or impaired, but when I pulled up beside him, he was texting. This is just the greatest country in the world: you can ride down a major highway and text on your phone at the same time.

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I’d be delighted to share the road with cyclists. Is your bicycle licensed and are you paying insurance to drive it on the road? If not, hop on the cart path and quit blocking traffic on Hwy. 74 and 54 and endangering the public on Peachtree Parkway north and south.

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Aren’t bicyclists adorable in their brightly colored “Sesame Street” Speedo outfits? They look so manly and feminine.

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I have no problem with sharing the road with bicyclists. Although if I am going to share the road with them, I think it should be mandatory that they have their bicycles inspected yearly, pay taxes on them and have them properly licensed to use the roadways.

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Bicyclists on Peachtree Parkway north and south and on Hwy. 54 and Hwy. 74. Why not let golf carts travel on these roads also? They are more visible and provide more protection than on a bicycle and can travel just as fast or faster than a bicycle.

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Seen on the golf cart path: a blue stretch golf cart with five or six little children under 5 years old, and the Mommy (or babysitter) driving with one hand and talking on the cellphone with the other. May I ask why is it so important that you talk on the phone and jeopardize the lives of those small children? You are really a sad person.

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Someone keeps building sidewalks. These sidewalks start nowhere and end nowhere. There seems to be no logic to their location or purpose. It is the Fayetteville city planners or the county. Spend our money wisely, and this is not it. Let’s look at Whitney Street. The potholes are not deep but they can rattle your teeth and might burst a tire. City Council does not seem too concerned right now, but next year is an election year for some. Let’s see if anything happens then.

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After a 4.5 percent pay cut this past year for ALL Fayette County Board of Education employees, and a one-time “bonus” check of 1 percent of that back this year, many in the schools have found they are not being treated equally. The teachers were given a step-raise that gives them a raise for the years that they have served in the field. That is great and they deserve it, but what about the staff that work so hard to support the schools and the teachers? Although the board gave the teachers step raises, they did not give that step raise to staff positions or parapro teachers. Considering that HR only gives one year of credit for two years of work in any field and the 4.5 percent pay cut that everyone took, why are they left out? Some employes have 14 years of more experience in their field and are only given credit for six. To add insult to injury, they may have worked in the school system for four or more years, which would normally give them two steps, and have NEVER gotten a raise. Is this fair? Some of the full-time parapro teachers make so little that they have to go and get free meals at school just to feed their kids. For being the “best” school system in Georgia, are we really making it worthwhile for the good people to work for the FCBOE? How good do we want to be if Clayton County pays better?

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I have been living in a rental house for a little over two months that is found to have a mold problem. My health has suffered, and I was blessed to quickly find another place to live to get my children and me out of this unhealthy environment. I am a teacher in Fayette County and a single mother who is temporarily handicapped due to complications with a knee replacement surgery and a subsequent surgery six weeks later. Teachers get paid once a month, and my ability to move is limited. One of my coworkers caught me in an emotional state a couple days ago. I shared my plight with her. As a result, she has organized people (some of whom I do not know) to show up at my house on Saturday morning at 9 to help me move. I just wanted to let someone know that there are some seriously wonderful people in in Fayette County.

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I just returned from the members-only presale at the Friends of the Library book sale. When I got there at the opening time, an obvious book dealer was already indiscriminately grabbing handfuls of books and filling large boxes with them. He filled box after box as he grabbed books from under people’s noses. I was very offended that he was taking so many books away while I was looking at them. While I understand that the library benefits from huge sales, I think a dealer should only be allowed to shop after the rest of us have had a chance. A book dealer should not be allowed to shop before members and the general public. Even if the dealer has bought a membership in order to snag a lot of books, he should still not be allowed to make his huge purchase until the afternoon of the regular book sale day. We members are book-lovers who eagerly anticipate the book sales to find books by favorite authors. This man was only interested in taking what books he could grab and then selling them in order to make money for himself. He really took my joy out of the anticipated book sale.

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Why do road workers in Fayetteville decide to paint lines and arrows during school rush hour traffic on the main road through Fayetteville. Why not do this at night during non-busy hours. What is the road department and/or DOT thinking? Oh, maybe they aren’t.

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Although it was recently reported that Peachtree City and Tyrone have some of the lowest violent crime rates in the Atlanta area, we need to take off our rose-colored glasses and look at how crime has continually increased here over the years. We should all ask our sheriff to start the ball rolling to make these thugs not want to go to jail for free room and board and basketball. If our inmates were treated like those in Maricopa County, Ariz., and had to wear pink jumpsuits, work on chain gangs, give up smoking, coffee and unrestricted TV, that might just be a deterrent. Ask the sheriff to make the inmates clean up these blighted and foreclosed homes to help better our community. If he did this, he would be as popular as Sheriff Joe Arpaio who has been reelected an unprecedented five times. Take note, Sheriff Hannah.

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Why do we need a gate at Kenwood Park? There are plenty of Clayton County kids in our schools; why not the parks too?

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When I go to my son’s honor roll awards event I prefer not to have 40 minutes of black history month presentations forced on me. Let’s keep on task and honor those students that have worked hard for good grades. Inman Elementary, I’m looking at you.

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I am an American. I am also a Muslim and the mother of a young man who was killed in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center nine years ago. This loss has been made even more painful by the attitudes of a growing number of Americans toward people of my faith. Please, please, try to understand that the great majority of Muslims are very much like you. We too want to see our children and grandchildren grow up in a safe and peaceful world. Do not judge an entire population by actions of the fanatic few. Anti-Islamic rantings, such as several published recently in this newspaper, are adding to the prejudice and misunderstanding that hurts us all. I thank those voices that have spoken out in defense of reason and tolerance. I wish I felt courageous enough to sign my name.

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The Tyrone mayor has been trying to get the council to hire a part-time code enforcement officer. After reading the minutes of the last council meeting, I can only surmise the reason a part-time code enforcement officer is not hired is because Mayor pro tem Furr stated, “In these economic times, we ought not to be too hard on the towns’ businesses.” As a taxpayer of Tyrone, I expect the council members including Mayor pro tem Furr to enforce the town ordinances in good and bad economic times. To do otherwise is a violation of her oath of office and she and any other council member that refuses to enforce the town ordinances should be removed from office.

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How hard would it be for the owners or operators of Marnelle in Fayetteville to enforce safety laws? If you’re going to post speed limit signs in the community, then find a way to put some actions behind the signs. Also, how many arrests have to made for driving without an operator’s license before you can remove them completely? One kid has been hit in the community. Will it take a kid being killed before someone enforces the law?

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Pat Robertson: Here we go again

Robertson Stirs Passions With Remarks on Divorce From Alzheimer’s Patient

Source: New York Times

With his suggestion this week that a man whose wife was far “gone” with Alzheimer’s should divorce her if he wanted a new companion, the television evangelist Pat Robertson stumbled into treacherous moral terrain, setting off storms of criticism and questions about a disease that shatters lives and families.

Good gawd... would someone please take his microphone away!!!!

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Just for a smile-Webcam 101 for Seniors
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101!

Love it! Thanks!

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A question for all registered Republicans.

In Dick Cheney's book, he said it was HIS idea to order shoot-downs of airliners on 9/11.

But, in former President Bush's memoirs, he said it was HIS idea.

Which man is the liar?

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Obama...

...said one of his first acts as President would be to close Gitmo - LIAR! Kev, what don't you understand about politicians? And, trying to destroy the Bush administration after the fact is kind of silly. Oh - got trained on that from the current administration...got it. Let's now dig into the Eisenhower administration...

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The President tried to close Gitmo

Some prisoners had been there without a trial for years.
He wished to try them in court and either hang or release them.

The republicans said no----let them all rot, guilty or not.

Same as they killed the budget bill.

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But he didn't...

...thus making him a LIAR. If he was too inexperienced or ignorant of how the politics worked in such matters, he should have stay in $hitcago, where his corrupt base is at. Please support your claims with facts, if you have the time.

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KChief andy. You're flailing about now my friend...

So you forgot the Republican hubub about "trying them in our courts?" Really? They refused to let that happen regardless of their past positions and the 90% conviction rate of US federal courts. You are desparate to try and make that a lie. And we understand why. YOU DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT CHENEY. A N Y T H I N G but CHENEY. But "Deficits don't matter" Cheney just keeps TALKING and TALKING and TALKING and you are dumbstruck that we won't ignore him. This is politics, mate. Cheney is giving us the ammo by the beltload. You might want to write him and ask him to stop.

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Try them as you like, Kev...

...there's still no state who wants them, or will risk allowing them in their territory, so a trial (even right down the street from the Ground Zero as Holder wanted) is almost a moot point now; I say military tribunal and hope for a veridict of death, or at least life imprisonment. And, I don't like Cheney so much; again, not a die-hard conservative. I could care less how much he talks; its not going to save the current administration.

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What budget bill did the Repubs kill anyway?

The only one I noticed from Obama was defeated 97-0 in the Senate. Of course, that seems to indicate that almost every Dem voted against it too and absolutely NONE voted FOR it, but what good are facts when it's better to blame the Repubs, blame the Tea Party, blame anyone else. Or just ramble on and on like an escapee from an institution.

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Stay tuned

If this Congress comes back with the same non- cooperative partisan stuff - we'll have Obama definitely re-elected and a NEW Congress!!! Just saying.

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partisan, dm?

97-0 against obamarx's budget proposal sounds pretty non-partisan to me.

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maximus

Everyone that voted against Obamarx's budget is a racist. Haven't you learned anything?

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Exactly, DM!

We need to get these Senate Democrats on board with a proper budget & plan for the future of our nation!! Obama can lose all on his own; he's abused his position enough that most are seeing through him.

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Hey Nuke, speaking of facts: I notice you avoided the main

subject matter that roundabout brought up. why was that?
And do you feel the Tea Party Caucus had no net effect in the stagnant budget talks of late? Really? The say no to a 10-1 spending cuts to revenue increase stance of all GOP frontrunners? You know better Nuke.

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Kevink

For 2 years the Dems controlled EVERYTHING, even managed to push through the insurance thingy over the Republicans objections, but somehow the Repubs managed to stop the Gitmo closure? I believe you know better too.

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Otay half of a lost dollar. I'll play.

Say I'm President and I tell the people I want Gitmo closed..... but I can't try detainees in US states because states are objecting. Explain to me how I close a foreign prison with nowhere to immediately transfer its detainees. I'm all ears.

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LOL, Kev...

...then you DON'T SAY YOU WILL!! It sells well to get votes during a campaign, though! Maybe if he had more than 2 years in the Senate he'd have known what he was talking about! LMAO!!

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Maybe he should have thought of that

BEFORE he made it campaign rhetoric.

But what about the Patriot Act did he forget his veto pen? Was he forced to sign that one?

Or how about that ending the wars in his first year? Did he forget the Generals phone number?

Come on kevin rhetoric is one thing stupid rhetoric is a whole different ballgame.

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The Patriot Act again, Observer?

How would President Obama veto a law signed and implemented by President Bush? And I'm still wondering which man, Bush or Cheney, do you think is remembering truthfully.

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kevink

First off, roundy blamed Gitmo not closing on the Repubs...

roundabout wrote:

Some prisoners had been there without a trial for years.
He wished to try them in court and either hang or release them.

The republicans said no----let them all rot, guilty or not.

Then you said...

kevink wrote:

So you forgot the Republican hubub about "trying them in our courts?" Really? They refused to let that happen regardless of their past positions and the 90% conviction rate of US federal courts. You are desparate to try and make that a lie.

So now it's gone from the Repubs to just the states? Changing parameters here? Repubs run all the States I suppose?
Pick an argument and stick with it.

Oh yeah, about the ears, I've heard that.

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Halfdollar. Why are you playing ignorant? U have the internet.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/21/top-republican-lawmaker-...

You can find this info yourself unless you want to pretend this didn't really happen. Key quotes:

"Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell expressed his concerns on the Senate floor Tuesday about President Obama's timeline to close the Guantanamo Bay prison by January 2010."

Halfdollar, McConnell is the highest ranking REPUBLICAN in the Senate.

"President Obama's war funding request for more than $80 billion includes funds to close the U.S. detention facility in Cuba, but McConnell said the administration lacks a clear plan regarding where to place the "most dangerous men alive."

"The administration has made a priority of closing Guantanamo. But its first priority should be to assure the American people that the detainees at Gitmo will never again be able to harm innocent people," McConnell said."

The President submitted a budget attempting to close GITMO. Republicans universally opposed this. Facts are facts. Whether or not you choose to acknowledge them is a personal issue for you to deal with.

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Like I said before kevin, the Dems had control of EVERYTHING. Did I say there was no opposition? The Dems crammed healthcare down the throats of the Repubs but couldn't do anything with Gitmo? Who's playing ignorant kevin? The fact is the Dems wanted no part of Gitmo either, but in your partisan way, only Repubs deserve any blame. Pull your head out of the sand kevin and own up to your own parties faults and acknowledge all the facts, not just the ones that are convenient for you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/20/senate-votes-to-block-fun_n_205...

90-6 kevin, 90-6, tell the whole story kevin. "And Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who had said on Tuesday he opposed allowing detainees to be transferred to U.S. prisons, signaled he might change his mind on that point. "If the administration proposes a plan that recommends the transfer of some detainees to American prisons, he will evaluate it carefully and make a judgment at that time," said spokesman Jim Manley." Would Harry be the top Dem?

Who's playing ignorant now my big eared friend?

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Halfadollar. I find this interesting.

I ask whether Cheney is lying in his book or is Bush misremembering. KcChief goes "Obama lied about Gitmo," and now it's about democrats roll in keeping Gitmo open?
1. The President tried to close GITMO. He made a budget request for this.
2. He is not a supreme ruler. He could not do this himself. If he could, the healhcare act you continue to site would be a single payer system, wouldn't it?

3. Republicans are very good at voting as a block and then not accepting any credit for the end results. Classic.

Here you go. DEMOCRATS played a roll in keeping GITMO open. You are right. Republicans have done all in their power to keep it open. The President has done all in his power to fulfill his promise. Now, extend the same candor to me:

Who's the liar? Bush or Cheney?

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kevin

First off, since both Bush and Cheney are politicians, it stands to reason that they both are lying. Now to get back on point, 1. I was responding to roundy's contention that it was the Repubs that kept Gitmo open. 2. You supported that claim, while giving your Dems a pass. 3. Here it only took couple days to get you to admit it. That's almost worthy of David's mom.

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Halfdollar. Buy yourself a beer and pat yourself on the back.

"So you forgot the Republican hubub about "trying them in our courts?" Really? They refused to let that happen regardless of their past positions and the 90% conviction rate of US federal courts."

There was my "support" for roundy's post. Shocking statement for sure.

Let's title our next subject, "What in the blazes does this have to do with David's Mom?" Are you crushing on her like Gadhaffi for Condeleeza?

You don't happen to know Roundabout do you? Honest question

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kevin

The hubub was just rhetoric, kind of like Obama's, funny you never mentioned the vote, just laid it all at the Repubs feet. Hey I can understand that, it's that partisan thing again. As far as roundy is concerned, he belongs to y'all , maybe I should be asking you that.

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halfdollar. noted

But I think the root of this was, Obama lied about his desire to close GITMO. I believe we both know he tried, but failed. Not exactly the KCChief eluded to.

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I don't think Obama lied, I do think he overestimated his powers of persuasion. I never mentioned KCChief's post, just roundy's.

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Thanks for the correct answer, Kev...

...as you shown the GOPer's stopped that foolishness because he HAD NO PLAN, nowhere to put them, no idea of what to do - just 'gimme the $$$'. Just like we've had no budget for years, the Democratic Party 'just wants the $$$'. You've just added another bit of proof of their history of 'tax & spend'. Thank you, sir.

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KChief Andy. Do me a solid.

What has the GOP's history been over the last two decades? What can we expect, based on THE PROVEN RECORD of The GOP? Honest answer please. And please include gay marriage, the uterus, and unfunded military conflicts and prescription drug plans.

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Not a LIAR, none of them are really lying -not technically

Most of the things these guys say to get elected are nothing more than harmless and mindless pandering to a crowd that knows even less about government than the candidate. From Imker, Brown, Deal all the way up to Prezbo, they just say things during a campaign that gets applause or coverage. I think Obama really wanted to close Gitmo and thought he could. I think Imker really thought he could balance the budget with no new taxes. I think Brown wanted to shut down WFB and thought he could - although ignoring the big 3 voting bloc seems a bit naive.

They all have a series of OMG moments when they get in office and are told what they can (very little) and can't (lot's) do.

I think Mr. Diehart believes his very presence on council will prevent the bickering and small-minded behavior. I mean he really believes it when he says that. Oh well, another campaign, and some more promises.

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Robert Morgan. Sit Down!

I don't want you to fall over. I agree with everything you just wrote; completely. Campaigning absolutely stinks, doesn't it? Everyone becomes a used car salesman. And I mean EVERYONE, probably down to the High School PTA/PTO.

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I agree, RWM...

...amazing how they flaunt & expand those little 'technicalities' to twist their lies into truths! Makes you shake your head...

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Of course sometimes they tell the truth - like Obama

when he said he wants to fundamentally transform America. OK Captain Courageous, Mission Accomplished. Now go away.

No, he's not through yet. They are working on refinancing everyone's mortgage so they can take advantage of the (artificially) low interest rates. Even if the mortgage amount exceeds the home's value. Even as DOJ is suing and intimidating banks to make loons in previously "red-lined" areas. Even as the Feds and the banks are hatching a plan to rent out their foreclosed houses. Doesn't anybody up there ever talk to one another?

Maybe this is the post-vacation "jobs" plan. Maybe he thinks this will encourage builders to build more new housing in the middle of this Chinese fire drill. And of course banks are certainly going to make construction loans in that environment. My God, what fools we have in charge.

This will really help - another roller coaster ride in the housing market.

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That's OK..The Ultimate Bank Bailout is about to happen

Obama and his band of morons are about to let every US bank and financial institution off the hook for fraudulently signing off on a ton of foreclosures and titles that they never bothered to check whatsoever for accuracy. Same with them knowingly marketing absolute garbage as "securities" and KNOWINGLY misrepresenting the valuation and creditworthiness.

The proposed Obama get-tough-on-Wall Street-and-banks-and-all-others-who-screwed-the-country? How about all of a 20billion "fine" that the banks and mortgage companies immediately rejected as "too harsh." Almost all state AG's have fallen into line with this "banker amnesty" except for the NY AG who isn't ready to give up and the whole deal of "you can't sue, no class action suit...wipe the slate clean" can't happen if one state is still going to allow action against the scumbags who committed crimes and also wrecked the whole financial sector of the US and most of the world. You'd think Obama would be all over this and other progressives too.....think again. They just want to win re-election and need those campaign dollars that will flow nicely if all the illegal **** just goes away and banks and all financial institutions get blanket protection from any legal action.

This whole scandal makes the S&L crisis of years ago look like someone robbing a lemonade stand, yet you don't hear much about it in the media, simply because it makes everyone look bad, from the corporate-owned and controlled media itself along with the financial institutions, the Dems, the Repubs, etc. All too afraid to bite the hand that feeds them.

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KChief Andy. You guys have been disappointingly easy this week.

Fox news just interviewed VP Cheney. He just put a book out. He's making the rounds right now. I know that sucks for *conservatives, but those are the facts. Not my fault the guy you conservatives helped put in office won't shut up.

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More Hack buffoonery

I seem to remember that Cheney's democrat counterpart the last time he ran was John Edwards. Now there's an honest man. At least we don't have to see much of him on the talk show circuit. That might have something to do with all the FELONY grand jury indictments against him.

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Maximus, thx 4 the compliment. Are Fox News staffers buffoons?

Your shooter in the face in chief writes a book and is out pushing it. He says things directly in conflict with what President Bush has said. Are we supposed to ignore it so you don't get your feather's ruffled?

When was John Edwards the Vice President of the United States? How many wars did he help start? with "stories" of al Qaieda and Iraq striking yellow cake uranium deals in Niger? How many died as a result?

Maximus, some times when you read something that upsets you, you're probably better off just clicking on by.

Cheney is playing publicity seeker. You'd better get use to it mate.

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How many wars did Edwards help start, Hack?

A pretty ignorant question. He supported the Iraq war as a senator, if that's what you're talking about - until he didn't support it, of course.

"Almost no one disagrees with these basic facts: that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a menace; that he has weapons of mass destruction and that he is doing everything in his power to get nuclear weapons;..." Senator John Edwards.

He did everything he could as a senator to "help start" the war in Iraq including co-sponsoring Lieberman's war resolution (the first VP candidate that Cheney ran against).

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Maximus, I'm confused. When was John Edwards #2 to the POTUS?

Cheney, the actual Vice President during our WMD wild goose chase, declassified info he wanted declassified, manufactured stories about Al Qaida working with Iraqi officials to obtain yellow cake uranium from Niger, and ultimately mislead Colin Powell into giving a speech he regrets to this day. And if you want to bring up felonious activity, do you recall a gentleman named Scooter Libby? Fall guy to the stars? I bet Edwards wishes he had a Scooter to take the fall for him.

How does that compare to one of 100 senators voting on a war based on misleading info? And why don't you want to discuss VP Cheney's book which is a very current event? Fox News felt it important enough to interview him this week. You know why they didn't interview John Edwards this week? Because no one but you, apparently, is concerned about the once senator from North Carolina.

And Cheney just keeps talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking :-D

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You are indeed confused, Hack

Edwards, who was on the senate select committee on intelligence, actually had legislative power - and used it to write and support resolutions to get us into Iraq.

I'll take a wild guess and say that he and Lieberman (his co-sponsor to get us into Iraq) were your choices for VP!

And then there's the poor, pathetic Colin Powell who was just too stupid to realize that the evil Cheney duped him into making his "slam dunk" claim to the entire world.

If you really want to discuss Cheney's book, why don't read it first?

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DODGE Maximus. Dodge, dodge, dodge. The artful dodger.

No one is talking about John Edwards but you. Fox is talking about Cheney. NBC, Meet The Press, Fox and Friends, The Today Show...... Cheney, Cheney, Cheney. I will not give this man a penny of my money. But, as he continues to talk and give differing accounts of events as related to us by President Bush, I will comment on it. Keep pushing the Edwards angle, but no one else is concerned with a has been senator; just a once was VP.

I do love the way *conservatives will attack the military veteran to defend the draft-dodging politician; fickle group you guys can be.

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Talk about a dodge, kevin

You libs will try to find anything to talk about besides this loser obumbles and the economic destruction he has wrought - even Cheney's book. He and Bush both took responsibility for a controversial decision? What a scandal!

I've heard nary a mention of his book on Fox, CNBC, Fox business, or any other channel I was flipping through since the first day. You should watch something besides the Ed show.

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Nothing about Cheney's book, Maximus? Really?

How much have you heard about John edwards lately? Try again, mate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCfA7Pm4DVw

IN MY TIME. On Greta. On Hannity. On Oreilly.

Hard to see with your eyes closed. As a kid, I use to hide under the sheets from the boogie man. He was never from my own political team though ;-).

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That's it, Kevin?

Hannity did an hour long interview on Aug 30th and that translates to nothing but "Cheney, Cheney, Cheney"?

That was a pretty funny reminder of that dufus Algore, though. I'll have to watch the whole interview. I might even read the book.

But, back to the subject all you leftists want to avoid: How about those jobs numbers today?

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Maximus. Lets not pretend to care about the jobless.

Your party blocked unemployment benefits before xmas until tax cuts for the rich were extended. Spare us. How long did hannity talk about john edwards?

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KevinK & Hiding Under Sheets

You had sheets? We true country folk slept on pallets on the floor--no sheets involved! No throttles to bend today?

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Athome. Our thatched roof hut

Had them there amenities :-D

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CBC keeps talking, and talking, and talking, and talking

Trouble is, they actually hold congressional power and are inciting riots.

Congressional Black Caucus Declares 'War' on Tea Party

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Kev, ???

I don't understand, and, I never said I was a conservative, just tend to lean that way because I live by common sense, not political views. Democrats sometimes have good ideas, occasionally.

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KevinK & Reading

You telling us that you've read both of those books?

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Having read both, my take is that each have accepted responsibility for the decisions made on their watch. Which is considerably more adult than our current elected and appointed officials.

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So Mike?

Shooting down airliners on 9/11 was both Cheney's idea and President Bush's idea simultaneously?

You think Condi Rice was the emotionally weaak person Cheney portrayed her as?

Is the treatment Colin Powell has received from the likes of Maximus, and to an extent, Dick Cheney, what you accept as characterizations appropriate for someone who spent his life in the Army uniform?

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Kevin

Regarding airliners, I'd ask that you review some of the NORAD planning. The decision authority rests with the National Command Authority that under the right scenario could be either person.

Ms Rice was extremely competent, more so than her predecessor as Sec State. The shedding of tears does not make one emotionally weak, but rather demonstrates a caring character. Make no mistake, that lady was/is no lightweight.

Most of the rift heard on the news between Powell and Chaney is doing what I think most networks wanted, and that is to sell advertising. I will say that from limited personal experience that the two gentlemen are polar opposites. Further, I would opine that they really didn't like one another, my opinion. That said, having served with Gen Powell I have nothing but the highest regard for both the man and his abilities.

As to the characterization by the blogger Maximus, why not discuss over an adult beverage? Hope the family is fine.

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I don't think you mean Cheney had any such authority, barring the incapacity of the President!

The President authorizes the Defense Secretary to issue such orders.
They eventually put the order into writing and notify Congress.

I don't even know how Rice became a republican---maybe she and Powell weren't? Just experts! Certainly didn't stand out---either one. Knew how to avoid trouble at every step. Knew how to ignore defeciencies in their control! They were not national leaders, just listeners.

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Mike. You sir...

Are a class act. Nuff said.

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The King Boys

Mike, that beverage thingy sonds like the ticket-I need to look that other King guy in the eye anyway and test his "Tarheeliness"! Lemme know. Oh, don't forget the SecDef's role in NCA authorities!
Gym

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Gym

I thought that he had more Sooner in him than Tar Heel, but only he can verify. Maybe he can be available for that adult beverage and hopefully really soon due to my "low beer indicator light" flashing.

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If not, Mike...

...a Jayhawker, then do your best with the lesser crew.

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Athome. Never will read either book. But Cheney acknowledged

The discrepancy during an interview this weekend. He blamed the differing recollections on the "fog of war." Funny thing is, I never knew he was in a war. Awful hard to find a republican around here. How would one know they are a republican? All this time I figured there were card carrying republicans all over fayco :-)

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I think what Cheney meant was that he came up with the idea of shooting down Bush's plane!

Go Halliburton!

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How does one register as a Republican

or a Democrat for that matter in the State of Georgia?

It is possible for two men to have the same idea.

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Well, if you vote republican in primary

they make you vote republican in the election.

You are a registered republican.

Only other way I can suggest is if you send Newt Gingrich $500 for his campaign, he will take care of the registering for you--among many other things.

Frankly I don't advise it however. They have some terrible candidates.

Just vote Independent.

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Primary/Runoff

"They" can't tell you how to vote in the general election. That is entirely your choice regardless of which party's primary you chose to cast your vote. Or even if you did not vote in the primary. However, if a primary election does not produce a winner, then there will be a runoff election. And only those who voted in that party's primary election will be allowed to vote in the runoff. You can't vote in the Democratic primary and then the Republican runoff in the same election cycle. Next election you can vote in the primary of your choice.

That's in Georgia where we have an open primary system. In Florida which has a closed primary, you have to be registered in a political party in order to vote in that party's primary. If you choose to register independent of any party affiliation, you cannot vote in any primary election.

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No they don't, if you vote for Republicans in the primary, that's all you can vote for in the primary, but in the general election, you can vote for who ever you want to.

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Hutch: Trilogy & Busy Bee fell

After having read before just how confusing and screwed up Georgia's law is about elections, I used two parts of it to cause correction and explanation.

Trilogy and Busybee fell for it and tried but failed to make sense out of it.

I would suppose that came from just another road-block to keep people from voting whom you didn't want to vote!
Sad state of affairs.

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Do you really believe the crap you spout?

Georgia is an open primary state. This means when you go to vote they will ask you if you want a republican or a democrap ballot. It does not mean you have to vote for the same party in the general election.

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Primary

Your primary vote does not constrain your general election vote. In fact you might choose to vote in the opposing party's primary for the candidate you think would have less of a chance in the general election.

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citizen_steve, trilogy, busybee, hutch

See!

Another guess at the GA election laws. Now you can vote for the ones you don't like in the Primary!!!

Who wants these idiotic jobs anyway?

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Kevink

Is this a trick question?

They're both liars, I thought you would know this already.

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See above: FREE SPEECH

Of 10/06/10!

This pops up all of the time currently!

Onbviously it died an unnatural death in October.

Reason? It was being published in the real paper.

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Dont know where else to put this

3 commisoners Horgan, Hearn, and Frady, JUST VOTED YOU A TAX INCREASE!!!

Brown and Mccarty did their best to talk them out of it.

Watch the video...the sound needs to be louder..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTx1PsPuh5Q

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And the father of the year award...

goes to Martin Goulet of Manchester, New Hampshire who took his two young daughters (7 and 9)on a jet ski ride in the Merrimack River which was made swollen because of the remnants of Hurricane Irene. They fell off their jet ski and damn near went over the falls. Fortunately, they were rescued. The firefighters noted that the young girls were close to exhaustion and within minutes of loosing their grip of a buoy line.

Oh, rescue workers reminded everyone to stay out of the flood-swollen waters, which they said were not safe for anyone, including rescue crews.

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Cyclist: I saw that video. Not very wise a decision.

The father was distraught with head in hands. He knew he screwed up royally. remember the kid here that was wake boarding in flood waters? Always sad.

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Cyclist: I saw that video. Not very wise a decision.

The father was distraught with head in hands. He knew he screwed up royally. remember the kid here that was wake boarding in flood waters? Always sad.

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As I have just pointed out to PTCO

some people use the notion of individual liberty to engage is egregiously stupid behavior! Government can't tell me what to do--Jet Ski on!

Yamaha will probably be sued!

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Ninja, you just cant legislate common sense.

But tht guy is raising two dare devils, man! Dad, can we go? Can we Go?

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Kevink, Sure You Can

regulate common sense. Require safety guards on table saws, kick-back bars on chain saws, require seat belt use in cars, require lower trans fats/sodium in french fries, prohibit feeding bears in Yellowstone, and the list goes on and one! Common sense is where people need protection most sometimes!

Braves Lose Because SugarFoot put the hate Mojo on Atlanta!

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Sure you can Ninja

but it doesn't cure stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRAcYy7JSYk&feature=related

If safety is in demand then companies will make products that are safe. There is no question that safety is in demand. We don't need government to decide competitive distinctions. Who knows if regulations actually created these safety features or the market was working on them anyway to protect themselves from burdensome lawsuits.

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PTCO: corporations would sell chain saws to...

people just released from prison for the chain saw murders!

They would poison our streams until the steam from the river killed everyone within 100 miles.

They would drill oil wells in the ocean without proper safety actions until the ocean was pure oil.

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Oil Companies/Flaming Pinto

I think they also do some of that unsafe oil drilling in some third-world places around the world, like Texas! Also, I think Ralph Nader had already helped the auto companies come up with some pretty safe cars before Ford invented the flaming Pinto!

Thanks Robert Eidschun!

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Oil companies are drilling in Africa, I think, in a place where the residents actually wade in oil and dirt to go to work.
All the farm fields are inundated and destroyed forever.

They don't need regulating either.

Also, coal mines have regulation, they simply don't bother to pay attention to it. We let them as we need the coal.

Somewhere right now there are many billionaire coal operators with Yachts and Villas!

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Braves lost

They looked like they had too much time off and were lazy.

Jarr Jergens does not have an out pitch that he can control. He needs a lot of hits for him to win.

They don't know what to do with a curve control pitcher who throws normally at 80 MPH or less. ( Don Sutton type).

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Round And Braves

Having no TV, I did not watch the game but I checked the recap on the Internet, and it seems exactly as you said! Jair is a concern! Good thing we have several young arms coming up! I still like their chances in the post season no matter how much hate Sugarfoot spews toward our hometown team!

NBF would have pulled for the Braves!

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Ninja - I

I am afraid no amount of government regulation can save people from bad judgment or outright stupidity. Taking away the rights of the many to save the fools, is in itself foolish.

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No it isn't

You are your brother's keeper!

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PTCO, Government Regulation

can indeed save lives! Would banning the sale of cigarettes NOT prevent tens of thousands of people from developing lung cancer each year? Just one of the many self-defeating and unproductive activities that people engage in in the name of individual liberty and the free market! How about letting 7 year olds drive? I know many Scots Irish in FC that would let their youngsters behind the wheel of a Ford-250 if it weren't illegal! You continue to slide into delusion! Okay, I will settle for the canned yams.

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Nope - No

canned yams either, you'll have to collect your own. You're still free to do this all by yourself, without help.

Ever hear of the "reasonable man" concept Ninja? Would a reasonable man let a 7 year old kid drive a F250 pickup? Those that endanger others through their behavior should be "regulated". As to individual choices that don't infringe on other people's rights, go right ahead, be stupid if you want. It's not my "right" to regulate your behavior as it relates to you as an individual.

It is not up to government to save us from ourselves, it is up to government to protect our rights to be free, as long as we don't infringe others rights.