The thing about Brown: He’s most often right

Who is Steve Brown, former Peachtree City mayor and current Post 4 candidate for county commissioner? Some people attempt to cast him as a villain, while others laud his stand on contentious issues, Let’s explore two of them.

If it’s easy to find stories about Steve Brown (which it is), it’s even easier to find newspaper articles by Steve. And while you may not agree with all his positions, even his greatest detractors would have to concede that he thoroughly researches his subjects, which is particularly refreshing in an era of politicians who don’t even read measures they vote for.

Two past projects seem to have generated the most debate: the extension of TDK Boulevard from Peachtree City to Coweta County, and the Peachtree City Development Authority’s operation of the Tennis Center.

Time has proven Brown right on both of his very public crusades for citizens he represented. If you are an average homeowner wanting to preserve our great quality of life, Brown has been one of your greatest defenders.

TDK Boulevard — On Feb 7, 2003, then-Mayor Steve Brown signed the TDK Boulevard Extension Agreement with the Fayette County Commission, agreeing to extend that road “to promote adequate and safe means of transportation” and committing the city to a $200,000 contribution.

While the city could regulate growth along the road within its limits, it had no control over the Coweta County length of the road that abutted the city. Developers quickly saw opportunities to heavily build along the Coweta portion of the road, and Coweta offered no zoning assurances to protect Peachtree City from adjacent overdevelopment.

As a result of those plans, Steve said in a March 2004 letter to the editor, “The creation of the TDK Extension is purely for developmental purposes, not traffic relief,” and in November he called the developer special interest claims of the extension being “a bypass which would reduce traffic on Highway 54” the “relief valve myth.” The Citizen reported the following month that Brown was “vehemently opposed” to moving forward with the TDK Extension.

The Newnan Times-Herald editorial board, in a December 2004 issue, compared Brown to Alabama Governor George Wallace standing in the doorway blocking integration while saying he was the “lone holdout in the new road talks.”

Former mayors of Peachtree City and the leadership of the Chamber of Commerce all lambasted Brown for taking a stand against the TDK Extension. By October of 2005, Brown’s predecessor, a very frustrated Bob Lenox, said that everyone from Congressman Lynn Westmoreland down to every local councilperson knew Brown “personally stonewalled this [TDK] project.”

Lenox continued, “It is not often in government that you can clearly find the culprit when things go wrong, but in this case every one of us who has worked for years to make TDK Boulevard a reality knows that Steve Brown stopped it.”

Harold Logsdon campaigned in favor of the TDK Extension and displaced Brown as mayor in 2004. Soon, however, after massive development plans were filed in Coweta, groups like the Peachtree City Civic Association joined in the movement to kill the expansion, and by June of 2007, the road project was officially dead and Fayette County returned the $200,000 to the city.

In the January 2008 PTC Update newsletter, Mayor Harold Logsdon, an enthusiastic supporter of the extension said, “Two years ago I campaigned on the need for TDK.” He continued, “Well, the situation changed with the proposed massive development on our border, so I changed my position. Completing TDK is not in the best interest of PTC and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.”

Had Brown not had the courage to take a stand with everyone railing against him, we would have the TDK Extension, a massive development next to us, and traffic jams worse than any we can imagine. Steve Brown had taken a whole lot of heat, but it turns out that the lone holdout was right.

Tennis Center — The other issue that special interests target Brown for is the tennis center and development authority scandal. Like the TDK issue, Brown took a stand against what he thought was wrong and was not in the best interest of PTC: loose (and sometimes non-existent) accounting records, failure to record meeting minutes and borrowing funds without public votes.

Following Brown’s efforts, The Citizen editor Cal Beverly said in an in-depth November 2005 public blog that “Those community leaders ran the old DAPC out of their back pockets. They kept precious few records, despite being required to by state law. Several of them served on the board of directors of either a lending bank or a bidding contractor.”

Beverly condemned the DAPC’s performance saying, “If they had performed the same way on their day jobs, they would have been justifiably terminated.” He concluded, “There is no recorded vote on more than a million dollars in loans to the DAPC. There’s no paperwork financial trail to determine where that money went. How can any reasonable person praise this old board?”

Many of the people who defended the DAPC were mortified to learn that three of the DAPC members were on the board of directors of the bank issuing under-the-table high interest, short-term loans to the DAPC.

A September 2005 article appearing in The Citizen entitled, “Mayor slams DAPC board members’ bank ties,” DAPC member and bank board member Doug Warner admitted he should not have voted on the loans due to a conflict of interest. “If that’s evil, then I’m sorry. Take me to task for it,” Warner said.

The DAPC members resigned in shame. Steve Brown, the lone holdout, was proven right again.

I’d add one footnote. Being a senior leader on the people’s side of high profile issues distinguishes a public servant from a politician. That’s why I’m voting for Steve Brown for Fayette County commissioner, Post 4.

Robert Ross

Peachtree City, Ga.

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To all my new blogging friends

Now that the election is over I wanted to reinvite everyone to our next meeting at Whitewater Creek. It is next Tuesday night at 7:00 PM. The guards are always friendly and will allow you to enter, just tell them you are here for the meeting at the club house. If you come I promise to personally teach you our secred hand shake, then you will be able to attend all of the "secret Whitewater" meetings.
I think that at some point we have to stop complaining and be part of the solution.
PS The tin foil hats are optional

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I voted

I have voted, 25th in my polling place at 9:00 AM, and yes I voted Steve Brown, we need more people that still love this county and are not afraid to speak out

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Brown has the courage and stands up for right

"12. Brown has the courage to do what is right. Go read the letter above all these blog posts and you'll see Brown stands for what's right for his citizens. Logsdon defends the crooks and the old crowd politicians who take advantage of us."

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We are very fortunate to live in Fayette County

I think we all recognize that Fayette County is a very special place. Most of us want to protect what we have here.

We need public officials who feel the same way about Fayette County. In the recent past, we've had officials with rampant development as their number one goal.

Some of those officials came very close to destroying our school system.

Some other Fayette officials have catered to developers and the developer's bank.

We've had officials who voted to make Peachtree City and Fayetteville "transportation hubs."

One of our officials was arrested for drug possession.

We had an official who abused his county credit card.

When the Federal and State Governments would not fund the West Fayetteville Bypass because it wasn't worthy of funding, our public officials took funds away from the number one priority for reducing traffic and built Phases I & II of the WFB.

We've had public officials who ignored roads on the verge of collapsing. They also looked the other way when our Water Department did not meet State mandated standards. They supplied us with brown stinky water and said that it was safe to drink. That little fiasco caused small businesses in Peachtree City and other places in the county to close their doors until the problem was fixed.

I could write a book about the problems we have faced due to public officials. We know about some of the problems, and we don't know about others.

Steve Brown and our current commissioners have solved a lot of those problems, and they are still working on others.

We can choose to keep the only public official who has cared enough to address the problems of our past, or we can choose to have the "go along to get along" officials who will ignore problems like brown stinky water and collapsing roadways.

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Where's Harold?

I have seen a lot of posts with accomplishments Steve Brown has done. I have seen a lot of Brown bashing by Logsdon supporters (aka Brown dislikers). But, I haven't seen a single positive accomplishment Logsdon has done listed anywhere. Same goes for his ads. Leadership is a great buzzword. But so are these famous lines, "Where's the beef?" and "Where's Waldo?" On a positive note, please tell me why I should vote for Logsdon based on his past performance or his positions on current subjects and his plans to address them. And not just, 'Because he is better than Brown,' or 'Brown is bad.' Where's the Harold?

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427 Comments and still counting... The thing about Brown...

I used the Citizen's search engine to find the above information. It's a dollar to a donut that Commission Chairman Steve Brown has been the most consistently talked about person in the history of this newspaper

And during that time there has been a small, but very vocal group of folks who have been out to get him. Time and time again, we see the same pen names desperately trying to discredit Brown. These folks don't appear to show any willingness to see both sides of the issues. It looks to the readers that Ex-mayor Logsdon doesn't want to have any part of the fray, and is relying upon mudslinging to wrest votes from Brown supporters. I have looked for comments written by Mr. Logsdon addressing the Citizen forum issues, but have found none yet.

Personally, I have no evidence that Mr. Logsdon is other than a decent and caring individual. What surprises me, though, is that he has no comment on anything...even about the Brown campaign truck being damaged or Brown's campaign signs being uprooted when he last ran against Logsdon. I believe Mr. Brown would have publicly disapproved of such activities had the shoe been on the other foot. Brown, on the other hand, has to deal with a hate group.

The difference is that Brown has faced the issues head-on. He is not one to reside in an ivory tower ignoring the public. Those of you yet to attend a BOC commissioners meeting with Brown as Chairman should try attending one to see what you are missing.

Years ago, the thinking was "why go to a commissioners meeting...they're going to do what they're going to do." But today is a different story. The publc can speak out on any issue and the commissioners listen.

Most of us would rather live here than in Clayton, DeKalb, Gwinnett or Fulton Counties. Stop and think about it for a minute, and we've got a really good thing going here. Especially low traffic and crime.

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The NAACP has seen fit

to segregate this entire county into little boxes (districts). If mudcat and others here have their way about it, we will all remain in those little boxes.

If our commissioners are so narrow minded that they will only represent the people from their districts, we will be an entire county population stuck in little boxes.

I hope the people from District 3 will recognize that Steve Brown is the candidate from their district with enough courage and, yes, ethics to publicly address all citizens of Fayette County

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Steve B. wanted to stay in the little boxes as well. DUH

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You won't hear a peep from Logsdon on the Voters Guide

Harold Logsdon is hiding in the bushes hoping no one will see him. We haven't forgot his rotten record as mayor and how he helped himself to the goodies while we could only sit and watch. No more!

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Voter Guide the Logsdon people don't want you to see!!!

The four or five hate bloggers try to keep starting fires all over place by making crude comments and accusations about Steve Brown so you won't remember his accomplishments.

1. Brown brought Clayton State to Fayette and the county announced a new four year college campus coming to Fayetteville. Brown cares about our children and grandchildren. He volunteers in the schools. Logsdon does none of that.

2. The traffic problems at Highway 74 and I-85 are being solved because Brown got the money from the state to make changes to the bridges and ramps. Logsdon hasn't ever done a darn thing about this problem. Logsdon was consistently frustrated with GDOT.

3. Brown put a halt to deficit spending in the county government. Logsdon publicly supported the old crowd who were doing the deficit spending.

4. Brown took the water problems seriously and replaced the top management and engineers. Logsdon is silent but we do know that he set up a for profit business with the city manager when he was mayor (ask hate blogger mrobinson).

5. Brown ended phase three of the West Fayetteville Bypass. Logsdon never spoke one word of complaint against the bypass and supported the old crowd who were funding it.

6. Brown created the most open and transparent government Fayette has ever seen. Logsdon put time limits on speech in Peachtree City. Logsdon also sued a a member of the city council for complaining he was coming to meetings under the influence of alcohol.

7. Brown helped us get the biggest economic development project in Fayette history in Pinewood Studios. The Pinewood Studios development opened the door to more than 3,000 jobs and a potential economic impact of more than $370 million per year. It earned the 2013 Large Deal of the Year from the Georgia Economic Developers Association. It also earned the Atlanta Regional Commission’s CREATE Award for Regional Prosperity and Economic Development. Logsdon not so good.

8. Brown won a 2013 award from non-partisan Common Cause Georgia for his support of ethics reform. Logsdon was an ethical nightmare and he accepted luxury gifts of expensive air travel, luxury accommodations and tours to Asia from a company he gave financial tax incentives to. That’s just plain wrong.

9. Brown served as School Council President and PTO President of J.C. Booth Middle School. Brown was also a long-time youth girls’ soccer coach. Logsdon did little to nothing for our children and grandchildren.

10. Brown is the only elected official in Fayette County who meets all the certification criteria for both the Georgia Municipal Association and the Association of County Commissioners of Georgia along with certification in economic development. Logsdon is not.

11. Brown's supporters consistently cite his accomplishments. Logsdon's supporters try to hide his record and sling mud at Brown.

There's a big difference in this race. Brown's record on the county commission is outstanding and far better than anything Logsdon has ever done.

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Don't forget no. 12 Mudcat

This is the one that really eats at Mudcat's soul because old Mudcat the mean blogger can't disagree with a thing Mr. Ross said in his letter above all these posts.

12. Brown has the courage to do what is right. Go read the letter above all these blog posts and you'll see Brown stands for what's right for his citizens. Logsdon defends the crooks and the old crowd politicians who take advantage of us.

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Actually none of that stuff in #12 is true

Brown does not care about the citizens, he cares about what is right for himself and his silly political career. Logsdon defends no one and certainly not crooks. If there is any such thing as an old crowd politician they went away when Frady did. The new old crowd type is Brown or Obama just making it up as he goes along, changing positions, changing sides, just looking for a sound bite that he knows the majority of the useless millenials will believe without fact checking.

I think his cleaning house at FCDA (and he admitted it here to mrobinson) is discraceful and that alone should be reason enough not to vote for him. No legal or logical reason for the FCDA to seek his approval, but the brown clown just wanted to be in the loop so he could claim credit and he wasn't. So he rewarded those that put the biggest deal in recent history together by forcing some resignations. That's not who I want to represent me. And I actually get to vote, unlike johenry and ginga.

Most recent poll, Logsdon 70%, Brown 20%, Mickey Mouse 6%, Haddix 4%.

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Most will not see your voter guide on here. Down to 80 users

and that includes you and me. Big waste of hysterical hot air. Tomorrow everyone is invited to the victory party (or not) at Brown's house in Planterra Ridge, but don't go inside, just congregate on the street. BYOB and some firecrackers. And any leftover Logsdon signs for the golf course side.

Looking forward to meeting Jane and upanatom and ginga and johenry and the others who either don't exist or live in Fayetteville.

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Mudcat

When the dust settles and the votes are counted after Logsdon wishes his opponents well and lets them know he will represent them also in his district then as you put it the fab five or six will not be in PTC they will be in Whitewater planning their next move. How do we save the next three yes men in two years.

All 6 personalities will be looking in the mirror and saying "where did all our power go" ?

All the polling I have seen, Logsdon 64%, Haddix 20%, Brown 16%

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Frankly, I will be glad when it's over...

I think we'll be fine either way....

You think Haddix can take 5%? I say no.

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Where is Haddix anyway? And pumpkin?

Guess all of his supporters flocked to "Stunning" Steve Brown and abandoned Haddix, even poor 'ol pumpkin. That's a shame.

Most of Haddix's supporters are huge Brown fans, I have noticed.

Maybe Haddix can get like 2% and call himself a real "2%er" Or, he could just give it up and try again in a far-away land.

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One missing from Voter Guide

There should be a number 12.

12. Brown has the courage to do what is right. Go read the letter above all these blog posts and you'll see Brown stands for what's right for his citizens. Logsdon defends the crooks and the old crowd politicians who take advantage of us.

That was an important one and I apologize for leaving it out.

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Extremely Well Said, johenry

I couldn't have said it better. Number twelve on your Voter Guide is very important, and I'm glad you didn't leave it out.

And, you are right about Logsdon's supporters. They've not listed even one accomplishment. All they can do is sling mud, call folks names, and use intimidation tactics.

I am so grateful that we've had Steve Brown to represent all of Fayette County these last four years. He and Allen McCarty endured the slings and arrows that Frady, Horgan, Hearn, Krakill, and Bennett were constantly hurling at them. Steve Brown and Allen McCarty paved the way for a new kind of commission in Fayette County.

We now have a respectful and responsible commission for the citizens of Fayette County.

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See tomtom, its like this

Logsdon does not waste his time commenting on here because most of the people on here (about 90 as of 5 minutes ago) do not live in District 3 - the only ones who can actually vote for Logsdon or Brown - and more importantly, everyone on here has clearly made up their mind and there is no changing it. In fact the smart ones have already voted.

Instead Logsdon has made it his mission to meet and greet as many voters in District 3 as he can, one on one showing them that he is a capable representative for them.

I have attended commission meetings under Brown, Frady, Bost, Dunn and others and do concede that Brown runs a more open meeting than Frady. Of course if we don't want Brown to be our representative from Peachtree City, then someone else will have to run the meetings - someone like Mr. Oddo. I'm sure he will do a fine job. I seem to be the only on here that knows we are just voting for a representative from District 3. Everybody else seems to think being Chairman for part of a year or being the ARC rep is a valid reason to support him - or that his being the second-worst mayor ever in Peachtree City is a reason to reject him.

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Steve Brown continually works hard for Fayette County

Steve Brown continually works hard for the citizens of Fayette County.

Under his leadership, we've seen our commission meetings go from citizens being intimidated by former commissioners to an all accepting experience where citizens are allowed to speak on any county related subject that affects their lives.

When citizens have had a county related problem, Steve Brown has gone to the citizens' homes to view and analyze the problems first hand.

At his own expense, he traveled throughout the region exposing hidden MARTA and City of Atlanta endowments within the Regional T-SPLOST that would have Fayette County and other regional counties funding for a possible 30+ years.

When small businesses in Peachtree City and other portions of the county were losing business due to brown stinky water problems, Steve saw to it that the Water Department was completely revamped with new management and a world class engineering firm.

When he and our other commissioners were faced with the inheritance of a crumbling infrastructure system, they addressed the problems so that school buses and emergency vehicles could do their jobs for the safety of our children and citizens.

Steve Brown exposed the fact that a former commissioner had voted in favor of bringing mass transit buses into Fayette County. Fayetteville and Peachtree City would have been considered "transportation hubs." Do you want to live within a "transportation hub?" I don't.

The list of good things that have happened for Fayette County due to Steve Brown's hard work goes on and on.

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Keep trying Mrobinson

Two of the commissioners became upset by the fact that I was publicly calling for significant changes to the county's water utility, including terminating the utility director.

Yes, it created some controversy. I offer no apologies for aggressively looking out for the citizens of Fayette County. This was a public health issue and needed to be taken very seriously.

As most know, the Board of Commissioners unanimously consented to a major demotion of the water utility director. One commissioner consented begrudgingly.

We have now seen significant positive changes to the water utility which protects the best interests of our citizens.

Commissioner Oddo and I had some very heartfelt discussions and we eventually agreed on what needed to be done. He had some apprehension, we discussed the matter and we worked it out.

Again, no apologies for aggressive looking out for the citizens. And certainly no apologies from me for my conservative Republican views.

Mrobinson and his fellow Democrats support Harold Logsdon. If that is the way they vote, so be it.

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Steve is right the right guy for the job!

Steve Brown has done a great job looking out for "All Citizens " of Fayette County! While our past commissione was busy building roads we did not need and handing out taxpayer money to county emplyees as "Bonus" during the "Great Recession!" Steve Brown had done a great job exposing the need for transparency in FCDA something the 2014 Georgia Republian General Assembly failed to address! Steve Brown took swift action with the PTC Water Crisis. Steve Brown has done a great job at the ARC Region asking the trough questions and bringing out the truth about the 2012 TSPLOST! A TSPLOST that was suppoted by the former County Commissioner & County Chairman Jack Smith along with PTC Council-woman Kim Learned & Vanessa Fleish that is until they too realized it wasn't going to get them re-elected! Will May 20th send us backward to the good ole boy system one that loves Federal Tax Dollars sidewalks/crosswalks where there is no foot traffic? Unfortunately on May 20th it will be the voters of PTC who will decide the fate of Fayette County and I sure hope they see the truth and cast ballot for Steve Brown!

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Self Serving Letter to Promote the Candidate?

The author of this letter from four years ago and heavily promoted on the incumbent's website as "News" is the co-founder of the Fayette County Issues Tea Party, so any "profound statements" should be colored by his agenda (as any statements should).

The incumbent is proud of the fact that the Tea Party has control of Fayette County government...so proud he used some taxpayer money to talk about it at a government convention in Boston:

https://webapps.icma.org/conference_Handouts/handouts2013/ICMA%20Present...

Haven't we had enough of the Tea Party games-playing and grandstanding? Choose another option for District 3. Here's a more recent letter I think tells volumes about the incumbent:

http://www.thecitizen.com/articles/01-08-2014/power-struggle-%E2%80%93-o...

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From: Charles Oddo

Sent: Sun 12/1/2013 7:49 PM

To: Steve Brown

Subject: Follow up to 11/25/13 meeting

12/1/2013

Good Evening Steve,

I want to thank you for taking the time to listen to my concerns when we met this past Monday, 11/25, as well as the previous discussions we’ve had about the same subject. I also want to thank you for doing the job you’ve done over the past year. I don’t take lightly the tremendous effort you’ve put forth.

Truthfully, I’d rather not be in the position that I now find myself. You and I have had some discussions over the months and have agreed to disagree as you put it. I know you understand my feelings, and trust you also understand my opinions don’t deter from the appreciation I have for you and the work you’ve done.

Steve, I have to balance my decisions against what is in the best interests of the County. The County needs a Chairman who is strong, but who also avoids controversy. The County needs a Chairman to be extra cautious of the ramifications of his statements and actions. Neither of these conditions rise to the level of requisite on your Chair-meter.

I’ve wrestled with whether or not to draw a line, and I’ve waited, hoping for change, but I believe by writing your letter to our nominee for the Development Authority, the time has come. You are capable of being Chairman, but you have a different approach that I don’t feel is always appropriate.

IT’S NOT SO MUCH WHAT YOU SAY AS HOW YOU SAY IT, AND NOT SO MUCH WHAT YOU DO AS HOW YOU DO IT.

You asked me to put in writing my concerns and what I would like to see change. Bear in mind, an inescapable duty of the chairman is to represent the Board of Commissioners and Fayette County as its figurehead. Everything you do or say reflects on the Commissioners and the County. We need positive representation at all times. So, with that in mind,

In order to receive my continued support, I must see the following critical changes:

1) Discontinue blogging and editorializing. There may be times editorials could be appropriate, but not without the professional courtesy of advising your fellow Board members and considering the objections they may have. It is unbecoming to see the Chairman in verbal fisticuffs with citizens and it is detrimental to our success as a Board.

2) Consult with your fellow commissioners before taking public positions or making public comments on policy, staff, or any other considerations that pertain to the County.

3) Become a team leader. Communication and teamwork are not part-time. You have not been entirely willing to commit yourself to teamwork in your role as chairman, and that must change.

4) Stop publicly referring negatively to individuals, whether or not by name and whether or not related to the county. That, also, is unbecoming of the chairman and his position, and reflects badly on the entire Board.

Steve, you must commit to these changes now. If you cannot, I’ll accept your decision and I will continue to support you as Commissioner, but I will not continue to support you as Chairman.

Considering you have already expressed such changes would be difficult at best, I believe it is appropriate that the other Commissioners have an option for Chairman, and I will offer myself as that option if they so choose.

The other Commissioners are not yet aware of my position. It’s only proper I share my thoughts with you first. But, I do plan on sharing a copy of this email with each Commissioner before I leave town Wednesday.

My goal is to have a Board of Commissioners, led by a Chairman, that work together on the same page.

My desire is that Steve Brown makes a decision in the best interests of the County.

Regardless of my feelings on the Chairmanship, I have appreciated your friendship over the months and expect our friendship to continue.

Regards,

Chuck

Charles W. Oddo

Vice Chairman

Fayette County Commissioner, Post 1

140 Stonewall Avenue West - Suite 100

Fayetteville, GA 30214

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What a profound statement by Ross at the end

" Being a senior leader on the people’s side of high profile issues distinguishes a public servant from a politician. That’s why I’m voting for Steve Brown for Fayette County commissioner,"

Time and time again, Steve Brown has proven himself to be a public servant. He fought the TSPLOST from the get-go. He traveled all over metro
Atlanta, butting heads with the ARC and the biggest local politicians in the area. He did not feel that the TSPLOST was right for Fayette County, and before it was all over, every county in metro Atlanta agreed with him.

During his freshman year as commissioner, Steve Brown was against the West Fayetteville Bypass. The WFB is a road to nowhere, designed solely to open up the area from Sandy Creek Road to Highway 92 for development He and Commissioner Allen McCarty were outnumbered 3 to 2 by the remaining members of the previous administration, but their gallant efforts were recognized by the voting public, who ousted two of the three others, while one retired. By his demonstrated leadership ability, Brown became selected as the next BOC Chairman by his peers. Since the previous BOC had voted to sign construction contracts on the West Bypass, Brown recognized that stopping Phase II would be wasting millions of county taxpayer dollars. Instead, he and the new BOC stopped Phase III. Phase II will end at Hwy 92 someday, and from there, it's a maze of turns, stops, traffic and traffic lights to get through Fulton County to I-85.

Steve Brown also opened up the commission meetings, allowing citizens to participate in commenting on agenda items, or any other subject of their choice. The BOC meetings are now televised so that those folks unable to attend the meetings in person need not miss the proceedings.

Steve Brown is a public servant, and proves it time and time again

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Perspective...

Public Servants serve all of the public, not just one special interest.

TSPLOST opponents - special interests who fear mass transit with a myopic view.

WFB Bypass opponents - special interests who live close and who were affected by the construction, including McCarty. And, you can cross the Bypass at 92 and go to Westbridge, which takes you to 138, and BAM, you're on the Interstate. When it's done, the maze will be far less than it is today.

Agreed on televising commission meetings, though - although with everybody gabbing, I doubt it makes for good ratings.

Steve Brown may be thought of some as a "public servant", but just what public is he serving?

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Poor anti Brown people

The "secret" Local Issues Tea Party meets at 7:00 PM, the last Tuesday of each month at the Whitwater Creek clubhouse. The meetings are open to the public, and all are welcome. They have an excellent speaker lined up this month.
It seems like the anti Brown group just can't seem to get any of their information right.

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G-Man another Logsdon supporter who can't talk about him

It's so laughable how the Harold Logsdon internet trolls just keep trying to rip Steve Brown down but they can't find anything substantial that's good to say about Logsdon!!!

Brown scares the special interest good old boys to death.

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Jane, Jane ,Jane

First of all who ever said I was anti Steve Brown versus any other candidate. Personally I think all three candidates are sorry. It's just that Brown is the second sorriest candidate. Haddix being the first. Brown is just the easiest to expose and has a proven track record in slithering on the ground like a snake. You never know where he will strike. You need to put down the kool aid. Do you really think there are only the public meetings that go on? Are you so simplistic to think that all business is done at the public meetings? If you really are this uninformed then maybe you should just move over to the left and let the Harry and Nancy people lead you by the nose.

Really, tell me something do you think that all the decisions and plans that are done at the public meeting are the only things that are ever discussed or could there be other discussion you don't know about?

Jane, tell me do you believe in the over used word transparency?

Jane do you believe in the tooth Fairy?

Trust but verify Jane, or maybe you are really not Jane but one of the Whitewater gang. Oh well!

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G-Man, Your belittling attitude

is exactly why there are so many people in Fayette County supporting Steve Brown.

That is the same nasty treatment citizens endured under the administrations of Jack Smith and Herb Frady.

Your nasty belittling attitude and Harold Logsdon's "quiet government" are the reasons Fayette citizens formed the West Fayetteville Bypass Coalition and the Fayette County Issues Tea Party.

Continue on with all of your remarks. Believe me, we've heard it all before and as long as there are folks like you around, we will most assuredly hear those remarks again.

Unless you've been to a Fayette Issues Tea Party meeting, talked to Steve Brown or one of his supporters in a reasonable manner, you will continue to live in the dark.

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G-man

Here's the internet definition of a "troll". Let the readers decide.

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]

This sense of the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, but have been used more widely. Media attention in recent years has equated trolling with online harassment.

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jh, Thanks

Have you been drinking the kool aid again I really don't or haven't seen the need for WIKI Leaks Jhenry to recite from your home library of Britannica sitting on your bookshelf about the definition of "troll".

If you turn back a few volumes look under the B's section, as in Brown. Now there is the true definition of a "TROLL"

Other then that what is your point.

I have heard from Ginga, JH, and Jane, you have been a busy troll Stevie.

Must get ready for church... Later Trolls. I like that word, Thanks JH

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Ginga, shame on you!

Ginga be nice. You don't even know me and look at the ugly things your saying about me.

Now how would you feel if my mom saw this and she knew you were talking about her precious daughter.

By the way, that's the difference between you and I. I know Stevie Brown, very, very, very well.

Have a great Sunday. I would but I have to work tomorrow. Peace out!

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I couldn't agree more regarding the 4 weak lapdog commissioners.

I don't think any of the 4 have the leadership capabilities or really want it. If any of them did have the cajones, it would have occurred when Barlow and Oddo cried to the public then backed down.

The 4 commissioners will never allow Logsdon chair, so we the people will be stuck with a neophyte, weak chair, with no political experience outside Their own living room.

Logsdon is a nice old fella, but he isn't a leader either. He seems more like an observer and has no political connections outside Learnard's front porch.

Steve though is the logical choice if Fayette County wants to move forward and not be stuck in neutral for two years.

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H&F & Commissioners

It is obvious you have never had a one-on-one conversation with Commissioner Oddo. I have. Try it. You just might be pleasantly surprised.

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Oh, I have

Met three brothers, their mother (god rest her soul) and 2 wives. I know and conversed many times with la familia. Commissioner Oddo, nice guy, but not a leader for chair.

By the way, I haven't seen his decision making checklist. Ever.

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H&F & Commissioners

Good for you1! Who said anything about Chair? And what in the hell is a "decision making checklist"???

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You can ask him about it

I'm glad you think he's the cats meow. It's good to have commissioners as friends when you need things, like clean water.

His campaign was based on how he would make decisions using a scorecard

Is it needed?
Does it cost $
How will it be funded
Is it good for the whole county
Ect
Ect
Ect

Look it up.

I would bet you a 10lb dumbbell his spreadsheet is blank.

I wonder how he makes decisions now?

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Oddo checklist

I think Oddo said he would use a checklist for each vote, or something like that.

http://www.oddonow.com/making-decisions.html

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mrobinson, FCITP's next meeting

The next FCITP meeting is scheduled for May 27th at 7:00 pm. I'm not sure who the next speaker will be, but we usually have one candidate or another during campaign and election times.

All candidates are invited to speak (Democrat, Republican, etc.).

We also have speakers pertaining to education, transportation, water issues, storm water issues, etc.

Please come join us, mrobinson. We are a very diverse and welcoming group. Contrary to what some here think, we have nothing to hide.

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Hurt feelings

Now there you go hurting my feelings again. You didn't invite me to FCITP. I told you I would just sit there and behave like the rest of you and do whatever they say to do.

So may I please attend. I would even wear my name if you would do likewise. Then we would see if you really exist or ??? Well you know.

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Nothing to hide?

Neither does our fearless leader, our Commander in Chief as well as all of the politicians in Wash. The politicians on the local level are just as bad as the national level.

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Thanks for the invitation!

I won't attend, but I appreciate the invitation all the same. I do not associate myself with a party affiliation, and I fear the perspective your group advocates. I'm glad you have perspectives, but I respectfully disagree with them.

Good luck with your candidates!

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How to get to the Whitewater Creek Clubhouse...

Whitewater Creek neighborhood is in south Fayette County, just east of Peachtree City

The main entrance to Whitewater Creek neighborhood is at the intersection of Redwine Road & Birkdale Drive.

Tell the gate attendant you're attending the Tea Party meeting in the amenities center to get waved through.

Take an immediate right by the swimming pool; the building next to the pool is the Amenities Center.

I would think having the meeting at the PTC or Fayetteville Library would seem far more...inclusive to more than a particular demographic. I guess the people running the group have friends who live in the neighborhood or live in the neighborhood themselves.

Having to get permission from the security guard to go through doesn't scream openness. Perception matters, Jane.

Who is the next speaker, by the way?

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mrobinson, The Fayette County Issues Tea Party

We have had meetings at the PTC Library. However, neither the PTC or Fayetteville Library has a large enough space to accommodate the size crowds that attend.

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Transparency which is code for secrecy is what Steve Brown and the Whitewater tea party have.

Pretty cool huh.

When is the next election of officers and how long have the current officers been in place regardless of offices they have held in the past?

Jane can you answer this for me?

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Transparency which is code for secrecy is what Steve Brown and the gang of Whitewater tea party have.

Pretty cool huh.

When is the next election of officers and how long have the current officers been in place regardless of offices they have held in the past?

Jane can you answer this for me?

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Tea Party to the left..Brown is always right that's far right.

I have been watching, reading, listening to all the pros and cons about Brown. There are three or four minions on this site that very well could all be the same people or represent the group that is touting how great and what a wonderful person Steve Brown is to the common people and the little people. NAACP Man of the Year. Democrat in sheep's wool.

Well, first let me say if you knew him personally then you would know he is nothing but a self centered man that truly believes he is always right and will embarrass anyone that disagrees with him, including the county employees that have had the unfortunate encounter with him. Brown would sell out his own soul just to get elected again.

Brown and his four loyal commissioners have done a better job of restructuring the commissioners meetings but I promise you it was for his benefit mostly. Brown will let his loyal subjects speak as long as they want. He states they are transparent (I heard that before, oh yea the Obama Admin.). Brown has united the cities with the county, until the city fire department decide to not join the county now he's mad and the county FD might have to be asked to help instead of doing it as in the past. Vengeance is what that's called (The real Brown). Yes he helped to get Pinewood here, NOT.. lol.

There are Dictators from as far back as the beginning of time that said and did the same thing, whatever his loyal subjects needed to hear so he could command them, at the end of the day he would have your head if you do not agree with him. Brown is divisive, deceitful, rude, greedy, inability to understand the feeling of others, lack of respect for others, he will lie, and could care less about the hardships he has caused the employees that currently work for the county and former employees. No, I'm not a former or current employee nor can he say I'm a disgruntled employee. Sorry Steve, I just know people that worked with you in PTC and Fayette County and watched you personally humiliate one current director in particular just to prove a point.

Steve brown is the direct product of the Tea Party. He is the mouth for the Whitewater Tea Party and their lies that propel the tea party and their vision. What most of the citizens don't realize is that he is working for Harold Boast, Jim Richter, Robert Ross and the rest of the crew that meets in secrecy in Whitewater. This is not just any tea party, they have made it their own party to rule.

If you have been watching the Democrat party the last 6 years then you should be able to see that there is much more to this tea party then will ever be exposed. I am a republican I also believe that the tea party as it was conceived was a great first step to correcting the republican party but what the boys in Whitewater have done has made this tea party something they can control and manipulate to their advantage with Steve Brown as the mouth piece. Brown was told to tone it down when Barlow and crew wanted to remove him from the chairmanship, So he did. All 5 current commissioners are part of this far right wing ultra conservative group that is consumed with the notion that they can control Fayette County as long as they can keep their man in place. What's shocking is that the other four commissioners don't realize they are the puppets and the strings are being pulled from the boys in Whitewater.

This is all wrapped up in a pretty bow and along with this wrapping is the Fayette Vision. What I'm saying is this Whitewater Group is nothing but Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi on steroids. Again I am a republican but as for the tea party in Fayette County they are the same as the far left Democrat Party. DO NOT TRUST STEVE BROWN. Let's return the tea party to the people of Fayette County.

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Check your ink level and then print a cheat sheet for May 20

If you print Gman's well done character analysis of one candidate and then print out the last 6 or 8 posts by that same candidate and read them over before voting on May 20, you will then be able to make an informed decision. Of course if you lived here during the time of his long 4 years as mayor, you don't need any visual aids.

Try and remember that no matter what his campaign post cards say or how many times he defames one of his opponents using his alternative identities, you are not voting for county commission chairman, the ARC representative or the King of England, you are simply voting for the candidate that lives in the appropriate district within our city that can best represent us as our delegate to county commission. That is it. Very simple. Who do you want to represent us - the people of Peachtree City?

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Can I get a witness!

Testify!

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Logsdon supporters can't find anything

positive to say about their candidate so they resort to bashing Steve Brown.

While Steve Brown was forming the Transportation Leadership Coalition and informing the entire region about the hidden $3.5 billion for mass transit projects included in the Regional T-SPLOST that you and I would have to pay for, Harold Logsdon was quietly doing nothing. Oh, since Mr. Logsdon has been campaigning for county commissioner, he does say we need to do something about transportation.

As Commission Chairman Steve Brown ended decades of deficit spending. Harold Logsdon promised financial accountability if he became mayor of Peachtree City, however, after he was elected, he just looked the other way.

All the time Steve Brown was solving major Water Department problems, Harold Logsdon was.....nothing.

While Steve Brown was working to bring a four year college to Fayette County, Harold Logsdon was sitting in his chair saying "we need to bring a college here."

Steve Brown received the 2013 Democracy Award from Common Cause Georgia for his work on the betterment of Government Ethics Standards. Harold Logsdon created a for profit business with the Peachtree City Manager and accepted a luxury trip from a company that received favorable tax abatements from the Logsdon administration. Steve Brown will not accept trips or gratuities of any sort.

When Steve Brown and our current commission were fighting for Fayette citizens rights to speak during commission meetings, Harold Logsdon was supporting the very commissioner who was trying to take our speaking rights away.

While Steve Brown was fighting to stop Jack Smith from diverting 2003 Fayette T-SPLOST funds to the West Fayetteville Bypass which were intended for the voter approved #1 traffic solution, better known as the East Fayetteville Bypass, Harold Logsdon supported Jack Smith's campaign for re-election to the commission. By the way, the federal and state government WOULD NOT put money on the West Fayetteville Bypass because they didn't rate it as having any priority.

The comparison list goes on and on, and are very contrasting when listed side by side.

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Logsdon in charge

He sends a campaign flyer saying he is running for mayor. (must be a staffer goof..or a printer goof...or a.....fill in the blank)

He e-files he is running for State Senate last month. (hate it when those govt. computers just make this stuff up)

Now that he has his bloggers explaining everything is all clean and neat, just so he doesn't have to explain anything to the voters, we can all look forward to the reign of silent Harry. Who, actually, will have less say in anything than he did when he was mayor. But that's good, he had nothing to say then, either, other than bellowing at a female resident in a council meeting to show he was in charge. Quite a step down from stepping into Ronnie Chance's shoes. Epic screw up, fer sure.

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Brown sees the nuts and bolts, and when they don't fir

Just like seeing the down sides of the TDK extension and nightmare of the DAPC accounting practices, Steve Brown saw the waste of tax dollars spent on the West Bypass. More importantly, he was willing to stand up and be heard and to do something about it. The bypass takes you to State Route 92 which does nothing for anyone’s commute. This is the reason the state and federal governments would not supply matching funds for phase one and two. It really served no purpose than to serve as a developer's playground.

While the former board of county commissioners pushed this road to nowhere, Steve Brown and the current commissioners saved the taxpayers millions by stopping phase three from being built. And for those folks who think that Pinewood Studios moved here because the bypass existed and now the county commissioners are taking credit for the bypass, they may be slightly misinformed. Pinewood Studios is located on Sandy Creek Road and the portion of Sandy Creek Road that was re-named “Veterans Parkway.” Pinewood Studios has the potential to be a great new neighbor of Fayette County. But they aren't here because of the bypass. And I don't recall the current commissioners suddenly singing the praises of the bypass.

As Robert Ross noted, Steve Brown still seems to be most often right.

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We are happy to support Steve

We are happy to support Steve Brown, a candidate that actually has a record he is proud to run on. I wonder if some of these negetative people have ever attended a Board of Commissioners meeting. We have and the difference since Brown became chairman is refreshing. It makes us proud to live in Fayette County.

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Well then, we are happy that you all are happy too, Jane

All you happy people who joined this forum in May or April right before the election after years of living in Fayette County. This is such a happy county. Everybody sees thru this stuff, Uncle Steve.

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Ther're not here

Because of Steve Brown either!

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They are here

Ask the realtor who showed them the land they are on after they rebuffed the Falcon Field property and were leaving. He may tell you a different story about Steve Brown's influence.

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Loons...

...the whole lot of 'em.

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Is Logsdon running for Mayor, State Senate

or County Commissioner?

Campaign flyer says Mayor.

State of Ga. gov. website says Sate Senate, District 16.

Social media sites say Board of Commissioners.

So, how about THE CANDIDATE explain what office he is running for now?

Will the real Harry Logsdon come forward?

Which candidate will that person be?

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Is Longsdon Running For Mayor , State Senate

Harold Logsdon like Mrs Handel is running for office any office doesn't matter!

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Moelarrycurly and mrobinson

Forget about the state ethics people because Logsdon's own postcard mailer said he was running for mayor!!! On the back it said commissioner.

How can you vote for someone who cares so little that he can't get the right race on the postcard???

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After the recent defeat at the hands of Mayor Fleisch I think Logsdon is trying to increase his odds by saying he's running for mayor, state senate and commissioner. He's hoping he'll win one of them.

The guy's judgement is very poor and it keeps haunting him.

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Good Point, Johenry

Logsdon has stayed out of this forum fracus for a good reason. I don't think his self-proclaimed political accomplishments hold a candle to Brown's, and his platform is mediocre. Unlike Logsdon, Brown has faced his usual Brown bashers by eloquently defending himself against their slings and barbs. As BOC Chairman, he has rolled up his sleeves and put in put in many hours of hard work. Comparing the Brown BOC to the past one, it's a silk purse...and the voters know it. The Bashers know it, too.

Logsdon, on the other hand, has not done any defending, as far as I can see. At a minimum, he should explain why he was unable to balance the PTC budget while serving as its mayor.

The best leaders always get the most attackers, from Abe Lincoln on down. And it's only because their opponents have comparatively little to offer in their own behalf. Yes, everybody doesn't always do a flawless job. Babe Ruth used to strike out a lot, but he still made the Baseball Hall of Fame.

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Johenry talks to himself constantly

How can you trust anyone who does that?

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This is serious!!! Is Logsdon even eligible to run for county??

Mary called the state and it looks like Logsdon didn't file the "declaration of intention" to run for county commission. The lady said the declaration has to be filed for a specific office. Logsdon is down as State Senate in District 16.

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Negative bloggers on fire department

The four or five negative bloggers are scraping the bottom of the barrel with their comments regarding the fire department.

Financial accountability never enters their minds because they only want to get their guy in office.

Peachtree City residents do not subsidize the Fayetteville Fire Department and neither should unincorporated residents. The Fayetteville firefighters and their family members asked their City Council to raise the taxes instead of going with the more cost efficient consolidation. A majority of the Fayetteville City Council agreed to raise the taxes in order to bring their level of service up to standard.

The Board of Commissioners has no problem with the City Council's decision.

The negative bloggers are trying to get hysterical again because the City Council followed the suggestion of their firefighters - the Board of Commissioners had nothing to do with it and we wish the city well.

They have to do these type of smoke screens because they have little to say in support of their candidate Harold Logsdon.

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Funny, these are all new negative bloggers...

It appears you lose more support when you start messing with public safety....I'd drive away from this one. The public safety lobby is pretty strong in these parts. I'll just simply remind those who are angry that there's a smelly pattern here - cross the Fearless Leader, and see what happens. Unfortunately, I think there may be support groups whose sole focus involves supporting those who wronged the honorable Chairman.

And no one cares about financial accountability when their house is on fire or they have a medical emergency.

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So how did Logsdon end up on the ballot?

That would be an epic screw-up, since the Board of Elections and Secretary of State (ya know, the actual elections people) clearly show Harold Logsdon on the ballot for County Commission.

http://www.mvp.sos.ga.gov/_SampleBallots/056/12-120-REP-FB.pdf

And this page is well, broken. Yeah, trust the state's websites, for sure!

https://gvrs.sos.state.ga.us/GAElection/CandidateDetails

By the way, who's Mary?

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This is laughable and not serious

Talk about very uninformed voters........

When you run for county commission or a city/municipality position, do you actually think you qualify/file/pay your fees with the State of GA and not the county or city instead? You're really grasping at straws here and seeming a little hysterical; you might want to take a break until post-election time.

I thought Alex Jones was a complete conspiracy goof, but you elevated it by thinking you know some "secret" that someone like Steve Brown would have somehow overlooked in his own election race? Really?

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It is funny watching them arguing with themselves

while they try to suck normal people into it. Every post not answered is a vote for Logsdon.

Can't wait until this is over.

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You are talking to yourself again...

This is really complicated for you isn't it?

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I chose not to do residential yard signs because the last time I ran against Logsdon they were all stolen.

The campaign funding was put into newspaper ads, postcards, etc. that cannot be stolen.

There have been dozens of people waving street-side with signs and I think that is more effective anyway.

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Best of luck..

No joke....I wish you well.

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His signs in my neighborhood say District 3, County Commission..

I have no idea what SB's signs say, I have not seen any.

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Why waste good money after bad?

Brown put out a few hundred signs last time he ran against Logsdon in PTC, and they were all gone in three days.

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So he is popular in PTC?

How come he is the only one with sign troubles? And it happens every time he runs...the mind wonders...

Honestly, let this end and let's move on....until roads are built between Fayette/Coweta traffic is not going to get better...

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I stopped, why don't you?

BTW - if you're counting on the ethics commission website to give you accurate information on candidate expenses....well....good luck to you.

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What can Brown do for me?

He got the county budget balanced, he can keep it balanced
Brown improved the quality and attendance of the BOC meetings by treating attendees with the respect and attention they deserve. He allows them to comment on both county agenda items and other concerns. He also continues to meet individually with constituents to discuss county problems.

You need to read his website and take it seriously. Except for being a Republican, Steve Brown reminds me of former president Harry Truman. Brown takes the heat. He doesn't stay out of the kitchen like Logsdon does.

Since the Brown blasters are continuing to dredge up the same ancient allegations on Brown that they did four years ago, that speaks volumes as to how desperate they are.

Find a great leader, and you'll also find lots of criticism.

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Is that legal?? Logsdon filed for the state senate race. Oh boy

This just keeps getting better and better.

Logsdon publicly supported Jack Smith who engaged in deficit spending and berated citizens at commission meetings, who voted to include us into a massively expensive regional mass transit plan that cost significantly more than the state’s entire budget, who’s solution for the interchange at Hwy 74 and I-85 was to abolish it and move it to Hwy 92.

Is it any surprise that he filed with the state for the state senate race and with the county for county commissioner race???

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Sad little Nuk

You need to give us your references for those very negative remarks you made about Steve Brown. You keep trying to win for Logsdon by being very nasty and just blurting stuff on the page.

The saddest part is you can't find anything good to say about your guy Logsdon.

The people are getting turned off by the negative light your hair on fire garbage you keep throwing out.

You can't really promote Logsdon so you try to tear Steve Brown down. That's sad.

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"allegations?" LOL...try reality
upanatom wrote:

He got the county budget balanced, he can keep it balanced

Of course, the other 4 voting members of the BOC had NOTHING to do with this as their combined votes apparently don't equal the one of the Chairman? Is this more Don Haddix logic here?

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Brown takes the heat. He doesn't stay out of the kitchen like Logsdon does.

He's the one who sets the kitchen on fire so he in fact does take the heat for the firestorms he starts.

Quote:

Since the Brown blasters are continuing to dredge up the same ancient allegations on Brown that they did four years ago, that speaks volumes as to how desperate they are.

Since about the only key item you Brownies can point to is OPEN AND TRANSPARENT GOVERNMENT AND EVERYONE GETS TO BABBLE ON AND ON AND ON, let me help you a bit with these "allegations" :

TRUTH OR FICTION:

Brown has twice been convicted of ethics violations-----TRUE
Brown was against TDK, then for it, then against it-----TRUE
Brown was behind an illegal building moratorium but still tried to negotiate with Wieland on Westside Annexation----------TRUE
Brown was totally FOR district voting and accused opponents of district voting as being backwoods bigots---------------------TRUE
Brown was a fervent supporter of David Barlow--------TRUE

This list could go on for quite a while, but I'll keep it short for those with ADD.

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Harold Keith Logsdon, State Senate District 16

State of Georgia, Campaign Contribution Disclosure Report, e-filed on 4/2/14

No contributions, no expenses listed.

So, do we have a BOC candidate who really meant to run for State Senate, District 16? (retiring Sen. Ronnie Chance's seat)

Or, a BOC candidate who was convinced not to run for State Senate, District 16?

Is FC BOC a SECOND choice for this candidate? If so, is THAT who the residents of Peachtree City need for County Representation?

THESE are questions that I would like the press to ask Mr. Logsdon and to publish his response to the voters in The Citizen.

The Citizen speaks. Please.

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molarrycurly, Harold Keith Logsdon, State Senate District 16

Wow, talk about wishy-washy!

moellarrycurly, thank you so much for the information.

"State of Georgia, Campaign Contribution Disclosure Report, e-filed on 4/12/14, Harold Keith Logsdon, State Senate District 16."

I agree. Mr. Cal Beverly, Ben Nelms, and/or John Munford PLEASE ask Harold Logsdon to explain this information and publish the interview in The Citizen.

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Logsdon on Twitter

He is using twitter and facebook to deny he would support mass transit in FC. Wow. So profound. Such a communicator. Harry, be sure not to get into any one on one discussion with your opponents-might just tax you too much. Yawn.

This is the type of saying nothing, no-discussing-issues candidate who is in no way the type of personality who should be voted in to office in this county.

His post was from 2 hours ago.

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Logsdon Tweet is removed?

Now, the tweet I mentioned above is gone. Why would that be removed and left on his facebook page? Someone did ask him if his comment included senior transportation and that is gone, too. I did not see any answer to that either.

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Steve Brown's Hands On Approach, moelarrycurly

While Mr. Logsdon is locked away on Facebook and Twitter, Steve Brown isn't afraid to address questions here.

Steve Brown's open, hands on approach to Fayette citizens is one of the things I admire the most about him.

While Steve Brown has actually worked to help many scouts achieve their Eagle Scout Awards, Harold Logsdon's website says that he has a seat on the Boy Scout Board.

Steve Brown brought the Clayton State University satellite facility to PTC on March 21, 2002 and is working to bring in others, and Mr. Logsdon is just talking about needing to do that.

Steve Brown saw a need for a dog park. What did he do? He constructed and managed the Peachtree City Dog Park.

Fayette County needs a commissioner with a hands on approach instead of someone who just talks on Social Media about what needs to be done.

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Harold Logsdon's approach

is to throw a few political sound bites out on his website.

ginga, I have to leave for a while. I will be back with some thoughts on this when I return.

Tell me, if someone has already voted for Logsdon and did not know he never intended to run for BOC, he really wanted to run for State Senate, how would that voter feel now about voting for this candidate who will be in charge of representing District 3 (and PTC) for the next 4 years?

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AtHomeGym

Why did Logsdon have to sue Haddix in the first place??? Even so once everyone knew the taxpayers were on the hook why did Logsdon keep the lawsuit going???

This is why the voters rejected him as mayor. He's a hot head who can't settle his disputes without suing someone. He's got horrible judgement with the business partnership with his city manager and the trip with the expensive goodies from the company that got tax breaks.

Why even think about going in that direction!!!

Read Mr. Ross letter above and see what the difference is between Brown and Logsdon. And it's a big difference!!!

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Why Doesn't Mr Logsdon get into the issues?

We know he filed a lawsuit against Mr. Haddix for a reason. Most folks know what the lawsuit was about. We also know that the lawsuit was at taxpayer expense. Most Logsdon supporters cite him as the only ex-PTC mayor in the BOC contest not to have a lawsuit or complaint against him, yet the lawsuit he filed was in response to a complaint about his character.

And while Mr. Brown still carries his few historical attackers, he gets directly into the issues with the public both at meetings, and in public forums, such as opinions in The Citizen.

If Mr. Logsdon chooses not to go public with the issues, it seems as though he is distancing himself from the voters. Somehow, I don't see Mr. Logsdon expending the great effort Mr. Brown has in balancing the county budget, having more open BOC meetings, and being personally accessible to the individual voters.

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johenry & Logsdon lawsuit

While I have no horse in this race--and am not even close to the track--I do like to see facts instead of misrepresentations. Logsdon sued Haddix as an individual NOT as the Mayor. Haddix was the one who turned it into an official issue, claiming he wrote the email as a matter of official business. The rest is history--never, most likely, to be corrected.

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re: the bus situation. What about insurance? If individuals

are driving, their individual insurance would not cover them under these circumstances. What about maintenance on the busses? How long will the tires last, etc. ? Many more expenses to consider other than initial cost of busses and gas.

In Miami they have small busses or vans that pick up the elderly or disabled at their homes and carry them to their appointments. If they pay anything it is a token amount and the rest is absorbed by the county. But that is different from having the transportation available to all.

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