Lake Peachtree’s future in doubt?

One of the perils of a dry lakebed. From the Peachtree City Police Department Facebook page for May 2: “General parking on unpaved surfaces is generally illegal in Peachtree City. This came out as an accident call, required a full fire department response. For the 2nd time, driving or parking, in what is supposed to Lake Peachtree, will result in a citation and another permanent water hazard.”

Rapson: County may not need lake as water source; report on spillway repair in 3 weeks; no word yet on costs

There should be an answer in about three weeks as to what actions are needed to repair the spillway to Lake Peachtree, which has kept the lake level low several months.

But a new question has arisen: does the Fayette County Water System even need to use the signature city landmark as a reservoir anymore?

Fayette County officials are awaiting a report on the spillway matter from Golden Associates, a nationally-renowned engineering firm contracted to assist in the spillway review, according to County Administrator Steve Rapson.

Once the report is back, a recommendation for repairs and projected costs will be available along with a timeframe. But the report may also shed light as to whether the county even needs to use Lake Peachtree as a drinking water source anymore, Rapson said.

Still another matter to be sorted out at that point is how much the county and city will pay toward the repairs, Rapson noted.

The lake is owned by the city but an agreement allows the county to use it as a raw drinking water source. In return, the county pays for the lake to be dredged about every 10 years to remove silt and sediment and preserve the lake’s storage capacity.

As any observer from the shore can attest, the dry lake areas have revealed that the level of the muck and mud normally on the lake bottom is quite high ... and as such, the lake is perhaps overdue for a thorough dredging.

The county has discussed potential dredging options including the use of a barge system with the lake full, or by draining the lake via a traditional dredging that would allow the dredging results to be visually inspected as opposed to use of radar-type technology to view under the full lake’s surface. No time line has been set for the dredging to commence, however.

Golden, working with the county’s consulting engineer CH2M Hill, is expected to review the lake’s current status and provide a recommendation for the necessary repairs needed going forward, Rapson said.

Rapson said he understands the frustration of residents about the sad shape of the lake since it remains unfilled.

“I get it. I drive by the lake everyday too,” said Rapson who is a Peachtree City resident himself.

However, the county can’t fill the lake if it creates a potential hazard, Rapson said. In this case the worry is that if the spillway malfunctions it could cause significant if not severe flooding downstream.

“I try to avoid panic until we know there’s something to panic about,” Rapson said.

Whatever repair is proposed must be approved by the Safe Dams arm of the Georgia Environmental Protection Division. In the meantime Safe Dams officials are evaluating whether or not the lake should be classified as a category 1 or category 2 dam.

The rules are far more stringent on category 1 dams, which are defined as having the “probably loss of human life” if the dam were to fail or be operated improperly.

The city has the upcoming Rotary Dragon Boat International Festival scheduled for Lake Peachtree, but the county stands ready to have the event hosted at Lake Kedron, Lake Horton or Lake McIntosh if necessary, Rapson said.

“No one has asked about that yet,” Rapson said, noting that EPD would have to approve such a change. EPD did sign off on moving the recent city triathlon event to Lake McIntosh, Rapson added.

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Inspection

I will address the Chairman of BOC with this. When was this dam last inspected? To be in this shape it must have been years ago, just a thought

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Lake Peachtree

After 11 years in PTC,moved to Fayetteville. So much better,less expensive, any town has its problems, but seems PTC is a mess.

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Brilliant.

Though very different, I think both towns are great places....that said, I really enjoy being able to take of many tasks on the golf cart.

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Nuk trying to cause a riot

There are no plans for Lake Peachtree to be anything other than a lake in the future. The rumor mill is in high gear.

As the newspapers have reported, we have found some significant problems with the spillway at Lake Peachtree. For the good of everyone concerned, around the lake and downstream, it is a good thing these problems were detected.

I personally assure everyone that we are currently working on a plan for resolving the spillway problems. As you can imagine, there are quite a few agencies involved, first and foremost the Georgia Department of Natural Resources, that we must work through. Please know that the county government hired one of the best consultants on dams in the state to work on resolving the problem.

Obviously, this solution will be expensive (in the millions of dollars) and we want to do it right and we only want to do it once. Both the lake and the spillway are owned by the City of Peachtree City and the county will commit to assist the city with resolving the issues.

Mayor Fleisch and her staff are actively working with my staff. Due to the magnitude of the problem, I will ask for everyone's patience as we make sure our planning work is accurate and accepted by the various agencies involved. As you know, the McIntosh Road/Kelley Drive bridge is behind that spillway and we have to also consider that element as a factor in our plans.

This project will be done the right way. When our consultants get back to us with a report and we run it all through the Georgia Department of Natural Resources for approval, there will be a public announcement of how the city and the county will work together to resolve the problem along with a prospective timetable.

The dredging will also be performed.

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Mr. Chairman:

If the city owns the spillway, then why is the county taking the lead and hiring the engineers? Seems to me there must be dual liability. I can also see the city asking for an independent inspection if they don't like the findings. Were they consulted before hiring the engineer? If the county is willing to pay for the repairs of two dams on private property as part of their stormwater issues, then I think the county can ante up for a dam used for years as a water source by the WHOLE county. Even if Mr. Rapson says the lake is no longer needed as a backup reservoir, it would be foolish to rid themselves of this in case of drought emergencies. We all remember the rationing just a few short years ago. I sort of like the idea of belts and suspenders when it comes to our natural resources.

When was the last time that the dam was inspected? Isn't there a state requirement that all dams be inspected on a routine basis? Who pays for this inspection?

It would also seem prudent to get the ball rolling on the dredging of the lake. I'm no expert, but I would think that by lowering the lake the costs go down and inspections are easier. By the looks of things, it appears we have a lot of silt runoff that is not good for the water. I think even the former water director would know this.

I would guess that one of our summer treasures will not be used this year. I'm sad about this, because my kids like to swim, boat, and fish in the lake. And though we certainly enjoy the park and fishing at Lake McIntosh, it's just not the same atmosphere without the carefree old time feeling swimming in your local lake with friends.

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Dredging

The Dredging was suppose to be done back in Febuary. Why are you waiting for the Spill way issue to be resolved. The dredging needs to be done no matter how they fix the spillway. It is ridicules for it to take this long to figure out what to do. This can not be the first time the Engineers have seen this kind of problem. Looks to me that no one is pushing hard enough to get it going. Someone should be demanding a answer everyday till they give you one.

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I agree Comon Sense

Comon Sense, I agree. For Lake Mud Hole to be empty this long with no evidence of anything happening is a disgrace. And the only excuse that I can see for it is poor planning and incompetence. I understand that the dam issues were a surprise development but here we are how many months into this and nothing has been accomplished? We still don't know when dredging will begin? Or how much it will cost?

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No torches and ptichforks here

Everything you just stated is exactly why I posted that I'm glad I don't own lakefront property on Lake Peachtree. Not trying to start a riot but just pointing out what is really common sense about landowners on the alleged lake.

I have no doubt about your intentions NOW to solve the problem NOW and then what happens in the future? Who pays? Maybe not a drinking water supply any longer? Hmmmm......

Like I said pretty clearly, would not like to be a Lake Peachtree landowner. If you have other evidence to why you should be, let us, landowners and a lot of real estate people know. Looks like a real cluster long-term to me.

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Lake Peachtree property owners

...glad I'm not one of them on the lake because it would be many sleepless nights knowing that your property value could simply collapse in the future and is in the hands of government agencies and politicians who may have conflicting interests.

Contrast that situation with Lake Mac and Planterra homeowners going CHA-CHING!!!

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NUK_1

You said that right.

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Great idea

We make an island in the middle of the lake and give it to a developer in exchange the developer pays for all repairs , maintenance , and the bridge to the island. On said island he can build a Racetrack fuel center, Chic Fil A . Ok just needed some humor

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Water Quality issue ?

Last year the county water supply was tainted. The water departmetn could not figure it out and could not correct the problem.

Is the real issue with Lake Peachtree a water quality problem ?

This seems at least as likely as the story we hear about draining the lake for dock work and damn malfunctioning.

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Well, not quite

The water supply first had an odor. Then, a month or two later, some had brown water (no odor). The water was within guidelines to drink (although, who would?), but yes, the former inept water dept. manager and some (now former) employees could not correct it, mainly due to neglect of the treatment systems and equipment, which the state came in and documented so well for them.

We have a new manager who is correcting decades old issues and making real progress. We have a top notch engineering firm consulting now. Don't know on the dock. But who cares about that right now, you going to stand on a dock with no water? My guess, you want to see the water level to make sure the dock is built above water level(just kidding).

Go see the dam, you can see the markings on it from the bridge and some of the cracks on the top of it. If you go north on the cart path and look back at it from north of the road, you can see more along the lake side of the dam.

Watch your dam language on here, kids have ears, too.:)

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MLC - Fish kills

There seemed to be routine fish kills also before the lake was drained. I suppose the drainage from the golf course took its toll on the fish in the lake? If the fish can't live in that water, I am not drinking it. It would be interesting to see the BOD readings during the fish kills. Finned canaries?

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was one fish kill. That was the year before, 2012. And, it was in the inlet coming from under the Parkway to Battery Park, not the main lake. It was also during the drought. Low oxygen, yes.

http://thecitizen.com/articles/09-21-2012/low-oxygen-creates-fish-kill-l...

I hope everyone realizes the sources of the water has not been the issue. It is the treatment of the water (or improper treatment) when it gets to the treatment plant(s). Ineptitude and lack of correct treatment was a huge part, if not all of the reason for these issues. Mother Nature threw in the drought a few years ago. I am convinced the golf course and every other runoff (fertilizer, pool water, dog poo, any kind of organic growth as the sun warms everything) has factored in at one time or another, too. This new management and engineering consultant have made terrific strides. The current county management and BOC are making this a priority with a lot of oversight. You find the finned canaries and I'll help you throw them in. Then maybe we can all tweet about them.

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MLC - fish

OK thanks for the info, you're right I haven't seen any fish kills lately, but of course there's no water either. ;-)

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Before things get completely off the tracks here

There are no plans for Lake Peachtree to be anything other than a lake in the future. The rumor mill is in high gear.

As the newspapers have reported, we have found some significant problems with the spillway at Lake Peachtree. For the good of everyone concerned, around the lake and downstream, it is a good thing these problems were detected.

I personally assure everyone that we are currently working on a plan for resolving the spillway problems. As you can imagine, there are quite a few agencies involved, first and foremost the Georgia Department of Natural Resources, that we must work through. Please know that the county government hired one of the best consultants on dams in the state to work on resolving the problem.

Obviously, this solution will be expensive (in the millions of dollars) and we want to do it right and we only want to do it once. Both the lake and the spillway are owned by the City of Peachtree City and the county will commit to assist the city with resolving the issues.

Mayor Fleisch and her staff are actively working with my staff. Due to the magnitude of the problem, I will ask for everyone's patience as we make sure our planning work is accurate and accepted by the various agencies involved. As you know, the McIntosh Road/Kelley Drive bridge is behind that spillway and we have to also consider that element as a factor in our plans.

This project will be done the right way. When our consultants get back to us with a report and we run it all through the Georgia Department of Natural Resources for approval, there will be a public announcement of how the city and the county will work together to resolve the problem along with a prospective timetable.

The dredging will also be performed.

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Thank you Commissioner Brown

I appreciate that you participate in this electronic town hall. I hope all parties can get this projected completed as soon as possible.

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Question Mr. Brown

If the repairs will total in the millions, why is it that you can commit funds/support at the cost for all county citizens? With the opening of Lake McIntosh, is clear to me at least that this shallow lake is not needed for water. After all we seem to being doing pretty well now without it. Perhaps the money would be better spent running a water line into Peachtree City from Lake McIntosh.

Now don't get me wrong, I know that Lake Peachtree is a featured amenity for the city, it's really nice, but how is it that this feature is the responsibility of all citizens of the county? To my earlier point, the property bordering the lake gets the most benefit, followed by the residents of PTC, but the balance of county citizens?

Just interested in your thought process on this subject and your promised obligations on behalf of all of our citizens. Should this not be put to a vote of all the citizens of the county? If such a vote was taken, do you really think the entire county would support this large expenditure?

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Lake Peachtree may not be used as a water source in the future, that is possible.

The lake is owned by the City of Peachtree City and they will have to help cover the costs. We have an agreement with the the city that says the county will cover maintenance issues (dredging) because we use it for water supply, but infrastructure replacement is different.

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So, Mr. Brown.....

the bottom line is we will just have to wait and see who pays the bill.

I am just saying that those that derive a benefit should pay, if the water is not needed by the county, then it's up to the city's citizens to cover the cost. If they want a lake they should pay for it. Those that live closest to the lake should pay the most and the rest of the city's citizens should pay the rest.

You know what? I would support putting it to a citywide vote to see if the citizens want a lake and how much they are willing to pay for one. I certainly would be willing to pay some amount for a lake, but a walking area, aka nature park, without golf carts would also be a wonderful addition to the city. My guess is it would cost a lot less than $5 million and you wouldn't have to dredge it.

Let's think outside the box a little on this folks. It's a piece of land that can be used for a number of things.

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Here it comes PTC, get ready for some big $$$$

Our representative who you just elected is saying - sure the county will dredge it this time, but maybe not in the future since they don't need the water, but infrastructure -translation dam repairs - not their responsibility. Which of course means our responsibility. Guessing here but $5 million sounds about right. When that pops up will Steve Brown be working for District 3 in Peachtree City or for the county as the "Chair"?

Told you that Rapson's press release was the tip of the iceberg and here is some more confirmation from the chairman.

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Lake PTC and who is responsible?

http://www.peachtree-city.org/documents/3/95/16%20-%20Lake%20Peachtree%2...

Fourth Slide:

States the County will:

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• “...maintain the dam, spillway and immediate land area abutting the waterline of said Lake, and the outlet structure and raw water piping column referred to in Paragraph 1 above, in substantially the same condition as the same are in as of the date of this Agreement (were in as of April 1, 1966).”

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Weasel words available if someone at the county so chooses

"Same condition" as in 1966. Best guess is it will be relatively inexpensive to do repairs back to the 1966 standards, but of course since then the EPD (and most other state and federal agencies) have been working overtime, well not actual overtime, but working aggressively to create higher and higher and more expensive standards and I bet they will come back requiring the new standards, the county will balk and say they only have to pay for the quick fix and the super-duper dam design will have to be paid by the city. $5million on us, but the county will contribute $60,000 for the dam and probably do the dredging.

At least it is a good test to see how the new county commission rep from the Lake Peachtree district handles it all. Probably point out that he's only the chairman now and his District 3 gig doesn't start until January.

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Cyclist - Slideshow

Last Slide - Questions?

Plenty but the primary one is, what if the county determines that Lake Peachtree is not needed as a county water supply?

Does the obligations under the agreement become null and void? After all, in this case, the county has no need for it.

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The bottom line

We all know how long it took to receive govt approval for Lake McIntosh. To shuttle an already approved reservoir to be utilized in drought conditions is foolish. With all the legal fighting over water rights in the SE, the citizens of this county deserve the assurance that we have this backup system.

I don't recall Lake McIntosh being built as a replacement, but for future growth and need.

Not sure what kind of games the county is playing, but it appears to be about money. Could the county budget not be in as good of shape as the administrator wants us to believe? They tried to manipulate Fayettevilles Fire Dept into a combined unit. Was it going to benefit the county, Fayetteville, or both? That didn't go over to well. (On a side note, it appeared to benefit both, but was probably presented too quickly. Like a hostile takeover)

Let the officials pour over the legalities first and present the facts. Then discuss the pros and cons of shuttling the reservoir vs making it a lake.

If the county is going to approve the dam repairs on private property as part of their stormwater repairs, I'm pretty sure they will come to their senses regarding the safety net this lake provides the whole county during a drought.

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Hey PTC O

That's the question I asked Steve Brown.

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I know now

Cyclist, didn't read the entire string, seems you didn't get your answer. My guess is that we'll just have to see how it all plays out.

I can't imagine that if the county determines that it no longer needs the lake for water, that it would be obligated by a contract covering water use. It would simply give up its right to take water. If it went to court, the county would win as it is not receiving any benefit. Anyway, it's unlikely that this contract lasts in perpetuity.

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OK but....

who has the grazing rights?

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Oh that would be the Bureau of Land Management's call. They're really good at that sort of thing. (eyes rolling)

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I am sure there is more to this story

than SB's opinion here. I am quite sure he does NOT has the final end all say about this. Remember he first said the water problem last year was simply fertilizer runoff into Lake Peachtree...that was far from the story.

Let me say that as a Citizen of Peachtree City, I wouldn't have a problem with us fixing the lake IF we could keep everyone else out of it. Or from recreating around it...that is obviously not going to happen. We all use it for our drinking water...as we have seen in the past, you can never have enough.

I am quite sure there is an agreement in place for this type of issue. Hopefully, everyone will be pleased with the outcome.

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Steve Brown - Question

If the report from Golden Associates reveals that Fayette County no longer needs water from the lake, is the county still obligated to pay for dredging?

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The dredging would be for water use and activity in the past. The county's Water Utility will cover the dredging and we will do a much better job than what has been done in the past.

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Steve Brown

So if I understand you correctly, the county's Water Utility will pay for the dredging regardless of the report's outcome?

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I understand your question. For those who don 't know, I do believe the water system has already saved and budgeted around a million for this dredging. There is a written agreement on file between the city and county that I do believe would have to be honored. As for future dredgings.....

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That would make interesting reading, do you have a link to the agreement?

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PTC O

You might think so, but I found it rather simple. Although, back in 1985, when it was drawn up, life was simple(r), wasn't it? I read it in toto about a year or two ago. No, I don't have a link or a copy, but I am sure if you ask county or PTC, they will let you see it. It is a public record.

It was typewritten (I sure am glad I know that that word means), only a few pages long (maybe a little more). It is in effect until something like 2034, if my memory serves me (questionable). I had a nostalgia moment when I read it, that is why I still remember having read it. It was that simple and if you want a vivid reminder of how the legal system has intruded into our lives, get a copy to be reminded of that intrusion. Not sure if that is the right word, but you get my drift.

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Thanks MLC

for the info and background, I may venture over to city hall and read it.

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Dallas has its ‘Grassy knoll’

Dallas has its ‘Grassy knoll’ and Peachtree City has the ‘Grassy Hole’ !

The agreement document is probably implicit about how much would be paid by the county and city. This little public verbal ballet about ‘we don’t really need the water,’ is just part of the negotiation process between the county and the city.

BTW, any plans to mow all that grass growing on Lake Peachtree?

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The new Peachtree Prairie

For the air breathing plant control in the Lake Peachtree basin, now that it is needed, I suggest big weed whackers and rubber boots.

Kicking a lake when it's down, what's up with that?

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Peachtree Prairie

Did you hear about the cowboy that adopted a Dachshund? He wanted to get a long little doggie!!!!! (And drive cattle across Lake Peachtree) LOL

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G35 Dude wrote:

Did you hear about the cowboy that adopted a Dachshund? He wanted to get a long little doggie!!!!! (And drive cattle across Lake Peachtree) LOL

That song was surely written by a politician! You can tell by the next verse "it's your misfortune and none of my own"...and the dog's nickname will no longer be Sparky, it's now Mud-Nuts.... Oh My -GP

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Cattle drive across Lake Peachtree...

and the accompanying song would be this.

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Hey SPQR

A classic!!!!

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It has been tried in areas

Mowing that is.....I have seen pics on this very internet.

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killjoy.

Party chat:

"Hi, I'm Bobby Joe and I work as an electronics technician."

"Why hi Bobbie Jo, I'm Buddy Boone and I work as a dam consultant. If I do say so myself, one of the best dam consultants around".

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Thank you sir

Wonderful explanation.

I'm sure it will be worked out.

Gotta keep a muzzle on some people, lol.

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We were heading for a cliff

I wanted to preempt the post saying the bed of Lake Peachtree will be a new county landfill site.

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A Chairman with a

chuckle. Now that right there was funny!

Harry Logsdon wouldn't have been this funny and informative. Thank you.

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Lake Peachtree

It would seem that if the lake needs major repairs, dredging, etc. that the residences along the shore line should pay an extraordinary fee to have this done. Of course all citizens enjoy the lake and should pay their share of the cost, but none more so than those who's property borders the lake.

It would be a shame to lose the lake, but if we can't afford it, then turning it into a nice park with a creek, walking trails, trees, etc. would be a least cost way of using the property. Walking trails without golf carts would be a nice change as it seems that the current paths are pretty dangerous to walk. It's just a matter of time before someone is struck and killed by a speeding golf cart. It's crazy out there at times.

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Hey moe

Isn't that your car in the picture? You know there are rules about that. :-)

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Why Cy..you so sharp!

Now that you just outed me...well, see, I was minding my own beeswax, laying in the back seat, squeezing my fit and trim torso into my superduper Body Glove Vapor X wetsuit, and.....Busted!

Just be thankful the next photo of me half nekked climbing out of the back seat with flippers on and mad as all get out didn't hit The Citizen. Talk about a violation...that would be really nasty!

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Lake Peachtree's Reservoir Status - Another Thing

I want the pier rebuilt, now!

- Doug Tucker, PTC

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Where should they put the pier, Doug?

Where the edge of the lake used to be - 200 yards from any water? Or where the new edge of the creek is now?
If they don't fix the dam and the county doesn't need the water, no dredging, no dam, no lake. The city can make some significant money by selling off the newly exposed land to private developers for some condo and apartment construction for young people to live per the Visioning Committee's fiat that only young working people will be allowed to enter PTC from now on. Maybe some water oriented apartments so you can kayak or paddleboard in the creek from your front door.

To be fair, the people on the west side of the lake should be offered a chance to buy the new land in front of their houses so no one builds in front of them.

Best guess is that there might be 150 acres of new land out there. Quite a windfall to the city, even at $50,000 per acre.

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Maybe some water oriented apartments so you can kayak or paddleboard in the creek from your front door.

A little Vienna? You might have something there!!! Maybe a couple of gondola's? I like it!!! LOL

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G35 & gondolas

Gondolas in Vienna?--how about Venice? I never saw any gondolas in Vienna, Salzburg or anywhere else in Austria!

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AHG

OK so I failed geography in school. Venice that's just outside of Birmingham right?

Husband and Fat...
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RWM

I'm sure those homeowners who live close or on the lake will love the thought of no lake. Especially the ones that just spent money on docks. Their home values will drop significantly.

It won't get shuttered. Its a game the county is playing, just like they did with the Fayetteville FD.

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Not so fast Husband, the EPD is lurking in the background

The EPD has the right to force expensive dam repairs or condemn the dam under their Safe Dams Initiative and could be considering either.

For sure some games are being played, but for now they are just PR games setting us up for a big expensive hit later on. No other reason for Rapson to say what he did about the county not needing the water.

No worries though, that lake sits almost exclusively within County District 3 and we just elected our representative for that district. The caped crusader is on the case. After all, he's the one with the great relationships at the state level. Just sit back and watch him do his magic to get our lake back.

Or failing that, how about a golf course on the newly uncovered land? It is about the right size and a win win for the adjacent landowners.

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It is a game

This should have never been made public. The county and the city can simply discuss any contractual obligations at this time. There has to be a pretty tight agreement related to the lake.

This is just a show.

My kids would rather play in the lake than the pool, but I doubt we will be able to tool over to Lake Peachtree this summer.

My guess is the bride is going to ask me to ante up for a pool membership this summer. I'll try to negotiate up to Cannongate so I can sneak a round of golf in here and there.

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But what is the end game here

The timing is interesting that the thought of not refilling the lake came after the election. I have to wonder if we found the sweetener for PTC to vote for the County SPLOST. If people were really thinking golf course there we would have voted Harold in for sure. It is also funny to see which PTC council person lives off the lake.

But again this is the downside to district voting. The odds on the county even hinting that they would leave that eye sore in the middle of PTC when we voted for all five seats was not possible. Now, we will see how our representative Commissioner Brown advocates for his district.

I hope we get this taken care of before the visioning people decide we need a walkable town center where Lake Peachtree was or better some nice multifamily housing.

Fun Times

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Hey Neil

If they had the roads and utilities to serve, this would be a good place for multifamily housing / town center. But it aint gonna happen.

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Two words......

Flood Zone. Go ahead and build there. Just make sure it's on stilts.

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Speaking of golf courses

What's up with the ones in PTC? I see empty greens and fairways every day now. Is membership falling or what?

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Lake Peachtree's Reservoir Status

I endorse Husband and Father of 2's consideration of retaining Lake Peachtree's reservoir status.

First, short of drowning or flooding, living things cannot have access to too much water. Fayette County created self-imposed water use restrictions and I am not supportive of rationing water where there is no shortage. It's not like we are saving for future needs. Nature and mankind neither creates nor destroys significant amounts of water.

Second, Fayette County's water department management is not yet worthy of our trust. We remember the recent results of State inspections. Other reasons for my mistrust includes the county's water department budget, and not the recreational department, providing for the Lake McIntosh recreational area? Have you ever asked the county to tell you how much money was collected from our water bill payments to pay for our sewage treatment facilities and operations? I did a couple of years ago, and they could not tell me, nor furnish the data. The county should have dredged Lake Peachtree years ago and should dredge it now, with or without the water in it. Surely Golden Associates and CH2M Hill have the capacity to determine the best means of dredging the lake, have gathered the necessary samples, data, and are completing required tests, coordinating with State officials, and at least talking with the Army Corps of Engineers. Mr. Rapson should know exactly when the recommendations are due. Again, I look at this as a management issue.

Third and last, for the county to consider possibly not restoring Lake Peachtree, prior to pulling out of the agreement with Peachtree City to maintain the lake, is probably a breach of public trust. The county should have dredged Lake Peachtree years ago and should dredge it now, with or without the water in it.

-Doug Tucker, PTC

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Lake Peachtree

In this day and age, I really don't think that a community closes a reservoir , especially with our periodic drought conditions.

Didn't the county just build Lake McIntosh spending big bucks because we needed a future water source?

While Lake McIntosh may have alleviated some issues it certainly wasn't constructed as a replacement lake.

Could Rapson be using this as a ploy in order to share the costs with PTC?
I could be wrong, but the county could certainly take advantage and dredge now. I wonder if the finances is blossoming as they want us to believe.

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Save $5 million bucks-----

Save $5 million bucks----- don't fill up the lake and don't repair the dam.

That is the smart move. Lake McIntosh is huge. We now have three large reservoirs and one "scenic lake"--- Lake Peachtree. If PTC wants it, let them pay for it. Time for Eric Imker to vote in another tax increase.

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Five million

No, that is already spoken for. When the visioners get done and say PTC needs a bunch of arts and farts (oops, we already have the latter, sorry), to entertain the twentysomethings who are packing up now to move here, the push will be on for the city to buy the former Photocircuits superfund property to bond a new Kennedy Center or Lincoln Center or Cathy Center there. Vote will be 4-1, just do it.

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