Brown wins his PTC district; Harbin, Studdard in runoff for Ga. Senate

Confounding his vocal critics, Fayette County Commission Chairman Steve Brown in Tuesday Republican voting overpowered two former mayors of Peachtree City to win the Post 3 slot without a runoff with a 52 percent total.

Brown has no Democrat opposition in November, so he is assured of another four years on the commission.

In Fayette’s first balloting experience following a federal court order to change to district voting from the historical at-large model, Republicans voted businessman Marty Harbin and attorney David Studdard, both Fayette residents, into a July runoff to determine District 16’s next state senator.

District 4 GOP Board of Education candidates Diane Basham (39 percent) and John Kimbell (36 percent) will face off in July to determine who will run against Democrat Ogechi Oparah in the November general election.

In the contest for the Senate District 16 seat being vacated by Sen. Ronnie Chance (R-Tyrone), businessman Marty Harbin, also of Tyrone, led the field the whole night for the top spot in the July runoff.

Fayetteville attorney James Studdard won the second runoff slot by 74 votes out of 16,073 cast across the four counties, squeaking past Griffin attorney W. G. “Bill” Johnston 21.57 percent to 21.11 percent.

There were no other contested local races on the ballot for either party.

Here are the numbers in final but unofficial counts:

Of Fayette’s 70,373  registered voters, 15,932 (22.64 percent) cast ballots in all five districts.

Post 3 county commission race:

• Steve Brown (I): 1,319 (52.63%)

• Don Haddix: 189 (7.54%)

• Harold Logsdon: 998 (39.82%)

Post 4 board of education race:

• Diane Basham: 948 (38.79%)

• Mindy Fredrikson: 254 (10.39%)

• John Kimbell: 882 (36.09%)

• Jane Owens: 360 (14.73%)

Harbin got 4,227 votes (26.33 percent) district wide to Studdard’s 3,463 (21.57 percent).

In the District 16, Ga. State Senate race with all four counties (Fayette, Spalding, Pike and Lamar) reporting:

• Bob Barnard: 1,369 (8.53%)

• James W. Clifton: 1,252 (7.8%)

• Marty Harbin: 4,227 (26.33%)

• W.G. “Bill” Johnston: 3,389 (21,11%)

• Erik A. Manning: 1,965 (12.24%)

• David J. Studdard: 3,463 (21.57%)

• Gil B. Williams: 388 (2.42%)

In just the Fayette portion of the vote (24 precincts) for District 16, the numbers are:

• Bob Barnard: 891

• James W. Clifton: 764

• Marty Harbin: 2,757

• W.G. “Bill” Johnston: 374

• Erik A. Manning: 1,380

• David J. Studdard: 2,177

• Gil B. Williams: 188

In state Senate District 34, incumbent Democrat Valencia Seay (D-Riverdale) easily held on to her seat, trouncing Sherry Mallory 77 percent to 23 percent. A portion of that district lies within northern Fayette County. There is no Republican opposition.

Former Fayette resident Lynn Westmoreland beat back Riverdale challenger C.E. “Chip” Flanegan 64 percent to 36 percent to retain his solidly Republican District 3 U.S. House of Representatives seat. He has no Democrat opposition this fall.

Former Fayette County Board of Education member Mary Kay Bacallao surprised many observers by coming in third in her first statewide race for the Republican nomination for Georgia school superintendent. She drew 71,590 votes (15.33 percent), just behind second-place finisher Richard Woods with 78,312 (16.76 percent). Top vote-getter was Mike Buck with 91,180 (19.52 percent). Buck and Woods will face off in the GOP runoff in July.

In Fayette, Bacallao led all other candidates in that race with 46.38 percent. Her nearest challenger for the Fayette vote was Buck with 12.8 percent.

Up ballot, Governor Nathan Deal trounced his Republican primary opponents with seven out of every 10 votes cast. Deal will face Democrat Jason Carter in what is forecast to be a tight race in November.

In Fayette, Deal mirrored his statewide showing with 70 percent of the local votes cast.

Democrat Michelle Nunn beat back Democrat challengers for the U.S. Senate nomination for the seat being vacated by Republican Saxby Chambliss. She will face the winner of the July GOP runoff matchup between businessman David Perdue (30.64 percent) and southeast Georgia Congressman Jack Kingston (25.79 percent).

Fayette Democrats gave Nunn 80.57 percent of their 3,607 votes, while Fayette GOP voters favored Perdue (38.22 percent), followed by Karen Handel (26.3 percent), out of the total 11,974 votes cast in the GOP primary.

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Brown bashing bloggers

You would think with Brown's victory (he carried 35 of 36 precincts with Logsdon only getting one precinct, Shakerag West) that the two or three remaining Brown bashing bloggers would wake up and smell the coffee.

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Not a bad sampling of the PTC votes

Looks like Mr Brown did even better by percentage of PTC precincts won in this primary than he did in the 2010 general election.

It appears that the usual Brown critics painted a darker picture of his performance as PTC mayor than the voters saw.

I think the mudslingers helped Brown win, by getting the voters to take a closer look at all candidates' qualifications and accomplishments. This is the second time it backfired. The question is, will he be attacked a third time as ex-mayor of PTC if he runs for political office in Fayette County again?

I would urge the Brown bashers to start attending the commission meetings, and to look at his performance objectively. They may find out that he's not such a bad guy.

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Smell the coffee?

I smell what you're making and it ain't bacon.

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You're still here? We moved on...

Enjoying talking to yourself on here, are ya, chief? What an unbelievable mandate of the people - 1,400 to 900. Clearly, the majority of residents in the district, and in the county, said volumes when they said, "Huh? What election?"

Way to go! Pat yourself on the back, and enjoy yourself and your self-aggrandizing support group on here.

We're allowed to have different opinions, but you sure wouldn't know it by the responses given when a opinion contrary to the Fearless Leader and the tea party express comes on.

Welcome to the machine. Resistance is futile.

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Being Blue in a Red State

Why are local elections partisan? The 3 mayors could have all run as (R) & the local party could or not endorse. But what does that (R) have to do inn a local election? Are the for/ against abortion / choice? 2nd Amendment? These are local issues how? Anyone running on a "liberal" agenda of debt spending? Same w/ the sheriff, et al. Why do I have to choose a ballot? Why not put even the Congressional all in the pot & let's vote on the top 2 in Nov?

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The little negative energizer bunny

mrobinson continues his negative scowl and blames the voters. Maybe just maybe they're sick of people like mrobinson and the other internet trolls!!!

Harold Logsdon represented the worst of what politics has to offer. I'm glad most of the people who voted were intelligent enough not to go back to crony politics.

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mrobinson the whining sore loser

The liberal tactic of crying like a baby when someone complains about your negativism is pathetic. Grow up!!!

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Yep, that hit the nail on the

Yep, that hit the nail on the head.

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Please leave me to my opinion.

Johenry:

I'm glad you have an opinion, and you certainly have a right to express it, as long as you keep to the terms of use. The terms of use specifically point out that you will not "Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others." I believe you are harassing me.

Please stop going after me by name. Public figures and their actions and perceived agendas deserve critiques, opinions and assertions supported by facts.

I am not attacking you directly. Please stop attacking me directly by continually calling me "negative" and "troll". I believe I am allowed to have an opinion about a public figure and political agendas, and I believe I can express it as long as I stay within the terms of service.

If you continue, I will request action from the editor.

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Did I miss anything?

I was away for a couple of days....anything exciting happen?

HA! Congratulations Mr. Brown - four more years of obfuscation ahead!

It's a really sad commentary (regardless of whom you support) how few people think government matters by NOT voting. Decisions for 100% of the people are made by 22%, even less now that district voting is in.

I have an interesting thought - would anybody want to see if they could become a Libertarian, independent or other third-party candidate and qualify for the general election to face Brown? There's still time - qualifying is the last week of June!

I kid....let me get back to my tasty, tasty tea and crow.

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Yes matt or mike, you missed the 1.87% mandate/landslide

70,373 could have voted for the brown thing but only 1319 did. Thanks to the 98+% that stayed home because they did not care or because the NAACP forced them to stay away.

Anybody with a room temperature IQ knows that Brown, ginga and the other brownies will tout the 1319 votes (or 1.87%) as a mandate and nominate him for man of the year again.

Brown will certainly govern as if he did have a mandate. Note to John D - warm up your t-shirt machine and print some---

"I am not part of the 1.87%!"

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because the NAACP forced them to stay away.

. Really?

Is the former owner of the Clippers your daddy?

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Yes Mom, forced by the NAACP to stay away

4/5 of the voters were not eligible to vote for or against Brown because of their lawsuit. It was the NAACP's choice, not the voters. That is using force, supported by a judge's ruling.

Leave my late Daddy out of this. He didn't own much of anything, but he did have a set of his Dad's manual hedge clippers which I still sharpen, keep oiled and occasionally use. They are close to 100 years old and might last another 100, don't see that kind of workmanship anymore.

He would not have liked Brown, Obama, district voting and as early as 1970, he thought the NAACP was past its prime and not needed.

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Keep posting!! LOL!! 22% of citizens in Fayette County voted. The NAACP FORCED 78% to stay home? Interesting. I'm sure you will share your reasoning for your opinion. It is interesting that an organization in this section of the country that is held in such low esteem, in your opinion, has such power over the majority of residents of Fayette Cointy. My mother lived to 101. I hope your father has a longer life. My mother fought hard to change some of the issues your father may have believed in. The NAACP and other Civil Rights groups changed the life of black and white Americans in 1970. We should have had a reconciliation period - so that 'race' would not be such an issue today. We are Americans. The issue in the VRA is the right to be represented by a person of ones choice - and having the right to vote for that person. (2)

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You mean Irv Levin?

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The white male

That institutionalized attitude - stick together right or wrong!! LOL!! Some try to say this attitude has passed. Of course, if you agree with Donald Sterling and his attitude towards Magic Johnson and 'black' men - please continue to express your opinion. Most find what the media has done to Donald Sterling sad. He is obviously suffering from some form of dementia. He has expressed that everyone loves him. In this materialistic world - love can be purchased.

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That institutionalized attitude - stick together right or wrong!! LOL!!

Many would say the exact same thing about the NAACP and it's lemmings. Just saying.

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Really? Do you know what you are talking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism

Do you feel that you have been discriminated against because of your color? I have had this discussion with 'white males' when we first started talking about 'race relations' years ago. I appreciated the candor of the participants and learned why some felt as they did. Do you feel that the NAACP took away some of your 'rights' by INSISTING on integration? Were you more comfortable and secure with segregation? Please share.

What laws have denied you equal opportunity? The NAACP is reacting to/asking for equal opportunity as dictated by the law of the land. Institutionalized attitudes of prejudiced blacks and whites has been found a deterrent to making the words of our laws a reality. IMO, the lack of foresight/vision of the leaders of Fayette County is responsible for this 'law suit'. . .and the expense of appealing the courts decision regarding District voting. A little foresight and preparation of leaders of the Republican Party would have prevented this from becoming an issue in 2013.

Lemmings - a nice word for a derogative concept G35? It is more acceptable than 'trash', used for other organizations in our country. Thanks.

I see where funds have been found to raise teacher pay, hire paraprofessionals for classrooms and still have $300,000 to fight the courts decision regarding Districtwide voting. Where there's a will, there is a way! The NAACP will not be seen as racist by the courts. The two government organizations will have a challenge - if they can find the right legal representation.

If one had an opportunity to visit some of the closing activities in our elementary and middle schools and a high school graduation in Fayette County - one would realize that the younger generation has moved on.

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Do you feel that the NAACP took away some of your 'rights' by INSISTING on integration? Were you more comfortable and secure with segregation? Please share.

You act as though you are the only person that has ever been treated poorly by the other race. I was in high school during the years of integration. A large portion of blacks that came to our school came with a huge chip on their shoulders. They caused problems, harassed the white girls, and were destructive. At one point the white boys were going to confront them after school but the police found out and thankfully stopped what could have been a bad thing. I've also been through a robbery that resulted in a bloody shoot out. Yes the robbers were black. My ex wife was robbed at her work, yes blacks. I have more but I'll stop here. I have also known many black that I thought were great people. But the one thing I have noticed is that even they, for the most part, make excuses for the "others". You know that stick together right or wrong attitude. Not until blacks clean their own house so to speak and groups that favor one race over the other are done away with will we have true "equal rights". But I don't think equal rights will please the NAACP and their lemmings. They'll still want more.

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My cousin was hanged; the residence of my family was bombed. I was fortunate enough to have mentors who taught me that these acts were done by ignorant individuals, protected by laws and customs that no linger exist. A 'race' of white Americans was not responsible for these acts. You appear, through your words, to need mentors like I was fortunate to have.

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I understand that not all blacks are responsible for what happened. My point was simply that it is not all one sided. You sometimes seem to think that only black people are victims.

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You sometimes seem to think that only black people are victims.

All Americans are victims of this 'ism'.

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Former?

He still owns them and has yet to write a bad check to any player or Coach.

He may be a bigot, but that has not been in question for a while. Funny how everyone kept cashing his checks.

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It amazes me that Jesse Jackson could bad mouth Jews and refer

to New York as Hymie town and get a pass but Sterling makes a statement in private to his bi-racial girlfriend and it gets blasted all over and they are now trying to take something away that he rightfully owns. There was a time that you had the right to speak in the privacy of your own home without being castigated for it. For sure, this old man is from another century--even his reference to Magic Johnson goes back years--and yes, Magic Johnson was married and did get AIDS, and yes he repented and went on to do many good things, but Sterling spoke the truth about Magic and AIDS. Evidently he wasn't too much of a racist to have a bi-racial girlfriend and one only has to listen to that tape to know he was goaded in that conversation. Who knows what that little gold-digger may have said when she wasn't taping the conversation. It is evident from her interviews, especially with Dr. Phil, that she is out to feather her nest from the publicity. I sure didn't see her giving back the million dollar home or all the expensive cars and presents. Who knows, she may have decided she had sucked the poor old fool dry and it was time to move on to greener pastures. If we were truly being honest, could any one of us say we would be willing to let any and all of our private conversations open to the public and know that there would never have been something said that could be held against us. All of us regardless of race, religion or creed can say they have never made a remark they would not want repeated for the masses. If you say you never have then you are either a liar or fooling yourself. Remember about glass houses??

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Johson does have aids

http://newsone.com/2882057/magic-johnson-hiv-2/

He carries the virus, and as a carrier could/would/probably has, given AIDs to countless women.

and I agree, Johnson SHOULD be one of the last to throw stones

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Correction

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/social-issues/endgame-aids-in-bl...

It is important that all understand the difference between HIV and AIDES.

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you are trying so hard to

make this sick man something more than he is. He got HIV and probably infected quite a few people. He is no one to be proud of. He got involved in AIDS causes AFTER he found out he was sick. In other words...he couldn't have given a rats butt about anyone with it till it reached out and touched HIM.

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Fourth grade teacher to class: Listen up students, it is

important that you learn the difference between AIDS and aides.

ACRONYM: A word formed from the first letter(initial/initials) or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term. Hence the acronym; AIDS=Acquired Imunodeficiency Syndrome.

Aide--person acting as assistant. Ex: aide de camp, presidential aide, teacher's aide.

It is imperative that you know these two are not interchangeable.

Now I know you are all smart enough to remember this.

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AIDS

Thank you for pointing out my typing mistake. Must not let emotion get in the way of spelling accuracy. I hope you listened to Donald Sterlings words. Stay informed.

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Fourth grade teacher to class: Listen up students, it is

important that you learn the difference between AIDS and aides.

ACRONYM: A word formed from the first letter(initial/initials) or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term. Hence the acronym; AIDS=Acquired Imunodeficiency Syndrome.

Aide--person acting as assistant. Ex: aide de camp, presidential aide, teacher's aide.

Now I know you are all smart enough to remember this.

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Your opinion would be respected if you spoke from a basis of fact. Magic Johnson did not have aids. Sterling 's opinion was/is not respected, for it was not factual. Jackson's opinion was not respected, for it was not factual and voiced in a disrespectful tone. Whenever anyone makes statements about an individual or a 'race' based on inaccurate information , that persons opinion is tainted IMO.

The players of the Clippers franchise have a right not to be 'owned' by someone who has a record of disrespect for African Americans. The organizational rules of the basketball association is handling the situation according to their rules and regulations, not public opinion. The men that you have mentioned have all disrespected their wives. Their wives have handled that situation in their own way. The 'public' has nothing to do with that situation. The media is doing what it does, and we, the public, by reacting to the coverage of the media, are keeping the media in business. It's the human way of doing business . No one gets a 'pass' .

Mr. Sterlings subsequent public statements after the release of the 'tape', was his own undoing.

Your defense of demented ignorance is interesting.

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DM, as usual, you manage to twist what people blog on

this site. First of all I am not defending anyone. Of course you would bring race into it and claim my statements are therefore 'tainted'. If that were the case, every statement you ever make here is 'tainted'. I was making a comparison between Jesse Jackson showing what a racist bigot he was and paying no consequence. Secondly, I was pointing out that Sterling was only making a statement regarding Magic Johnson that was a known fact---but of course you had to split hairs---yes, Magic Johnson had HIV and not AIDS, HIV is a precursor to AIDS and more than likely his would have developed into full blown AIDS at that time if he did not get the excellent medical treatment he got. The fact still remains he did have unprotected sex with many women, but as far as I am personally concerned, since I am not one of the women he had unprotected sex with--that is a matter between he and his wife. I am surprised that someone who is so ready to pounce on anything that can be construed as racist would state that the Clippers players were/are 'owned' by Sterling. Sterling owns no one (unless he has purchased and hidden some slaves in one of his estates). The athletes who play for the Clppers are employees and as such are entitled to their salary, and safe and healthy working conditions. I have never heard,or read that Sterling called any player a derogratory name-- and he did not use one in talking about Magic Johnson.

I am not defending anyone or anything--demented ignorance or otherwise. In fact, I am beginning to think that you are the one that may be over obsessing about race---you are wanting to find it so badly, that you see it in every person's statement regardless the subject. You keep talking about that perfect world you want where there is no racism---but I think you would "find" it even if it was oblitereated from this earth; as you do on this site continuously. If you really need something to pick, why don't you try your nose, and don't bother to reply to anything I ever post here because first off I am not interested in your one track gibberish, and secondly, more of the first. Have a nice day now, you hear.

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I am surprised that someone who is so ready to pounce on anything that can be construed as racist would state that the Clippers players were/are 'owned' by Sterling. Sterling owns no one (unless he has purchased and hidden some slaves in one of his estates). The athletes who play for the Clppers are employees and as such are entitled to their salary, and safe and healthy working conditions. I have never heard,or read that Sterling called any player a derogatory name-- and he did not use one in talking about Magic Johnson.

Mr. Sterling is referred to as the 'owner' of the Clippers. In the NBA, those who own the 'franchise' are referred to as owners. Gosh, it is exciting to have a discussion with such a well-informed woman. Thanks for the opportunity.

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DM, tut, tut, anyone as 'informed' as you should know that

ownership refers to the franchise not the individuals. I own a Honda but I must admit I do not own one Asian or even one American working in the Honda factory stateside.
It would be hilarious if it were not so sad--you seeing yourself as the bright and shining star who is going to lead all of us uninformed masses to the holy grail of your superior intelligence and then you keep shooting yourself in your foot, so to speak. But you persist, we must give you credit for that. I also find it amusing that when someone else makes a mistake, according to you, they are showing their ignorance, but when you make a mistake it is a typo. Yeah, I can see how your fingers would run on and write aides instead of AIDS. Yep, an error anyone of us could have made. After all we are all human, some more than others.##

I am so happy I can bring excitement into your life. If you would like, I could give a short lesson in 3rd grade arithmetic next. Anything to keep you happy and excited.

## Not meant as a racist or bigoted comment.

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Mytimite -

Thank you for your well-thought out clarification of ownership and franchise. An example of your 'star' status. I cannot compete with your intellect. Thanks for sharing.

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Always happy to oblige. Now I think I will end this little

tete-a-tete and do something much more meaningful such as change the paper in my bird cage. Which, now that I think about it is almost but not quite equivalent to a 'conversation' with you. Now get back to your surfing the internet for all that perceived back-up you always seem to need. Oh, by the way, that was no well-thought out clarification, just plain old knowledge and good sense.

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Classy contribution - Mytimite

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DM, thanks for the compliment. I'll make a deal with you.

I'll take my tongue out of my cheek if you will take your head out of your----wherever it is.

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Mytimite - Listen
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Not tainted - but contradictory LOL!!

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Of course you would bring race into it and claim my statements are therefore 'tainted'.

and then:

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I was making a comparison between Jesse Jackson showing what a racist bigot he was and paying no consequence.

Keep posting!!

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Mytmite,
Fayette own Alice Sharpton (DM) thinks that fruit loops are racist because there are no black ones. What do you expect?

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Fred, Fred, Fred, don't knock poor old DM, after all , like our

old TV hero Palladin, she's been everywhere man, cross the desert sand man---------, I think she was actually there when Lincoln freed the slaves and I bet you she gave him hell at the time. How would we have a moral compass without that paragon of virtue to tell us all how we should be behaving. Shame, her funny bone was left out when she was put together. She purposely contorts everything everyone says to put a racist spin on it. Sad to say, I think she is not only the biggest racist on this site but also the biggest bigot. And if she doesn't like me saying this she can go to her 'other site' to post.

PSST,don't repeat this but I think in reality she is the Grand Dragoness of the Krew Klucks Klam

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Fred - they are colored, so therefore not likely racist.

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Not funny at all. A sad fact of reality. Those who earn money from the skill of basketball players will do all they can to keep them playing without being owned by someone who expresses the sentiments of a Donald Sterling. All well paid basketball players work hard to maintain their skills - and their color has very little to do with their success. The checks are based on their skill. (This is true in hockey, soccer, baseball, tennis - etc.)

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Dumb/Ignorant people who don't know what racism or bigotry means

There is a big difference, but the illiterate media and others couldn't begin to tell you what in fact makes someone a "racist" or a "bigot." It might dilute the OUTRAGE!

When you're in the media industry, anything that someone with an IQ of a Dorito might not understand needs to be changed to something they will, for example, calling ethnic groups "races" all of a sudden or calling goofy bigots "racists." Does anyone ever hear the term "bigot" used any more except when talking about Archie Bunker decades ago(who was a bigot and also not a racist). Nope....any nuance is way too much for the average dumb and numb to learning person who needs only sound-bites and to get MAD.

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For clarification

Racist vs. Bigot

http://www.differencebetween.info/difference-between-bigot-and-racist

Unfortunately having been the attempted victim of both in my 74 years, I find this definition interesting.

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Nuk -

the racism/bigotry is not in question with those I discuss this issue with. It is the unnecessary bashing of Magic Johnson!! (And the untruths that the Donald spouted) It's been cleared up.) No outrage with the bigotry expressed. It's just sad that it has been tolerated. He had been sued by a black man earlier for his prejudiced actions. (Elgin Baylor)

Hey fellas, if you don't want me to discuss these issues with you - post them on your other site. As long as you spout your 'stuff'. (trying to defend racism, bigotry, ignorance) I'll react to it. LOL!

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In this case I wasn't defending racism or bigotry, I was just "reacting" to your ignorance in the fact that Sterling is still the owner of the team.

BTW, I have no other site.

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Hope your opportunity to call me ignorant makes you feel better!! LOL He has turned the ownership over to his estranged? wife. She will have to sell it - or may end up with no players. There are others ready to buy this team. It is a money maker. Stay abreast to this story. It is interesting .

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Just returning the favor.

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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Basketball legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar said today that Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling’s derogatory remarks about blacks are more evidence that racism is still part of American culture, but “things have to change.”

He's absolutely right. Now we have to worry about young black thugs participating in the "knock-out game" whereby they bludgeon unsuspecting white people from behind as they walk down the sidewalk. Make no mistake, this is no fraternity ritual. It's a violent, racist, hate crime perpetrated by black thugs because they don't like the color of white people's skin.

We have to worry about the fact that blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit a robbery. For some reason the black culture feels that it's ok to violently attack whitey without provocation because the think that they are owed something. But people don't like to talk about these documented factual statistics because it doesn't fit their victimhood narrative. They would rather blame it on whitey.

Kareem then rambled on about some "study" that he did and found that More Whites Believe in Ghosts Than in Racism.
Well bless his heart. He's just like our own senile Alice Sharpton, aka Davids Mom - they just make up crap to suit their twisted, racist idealology to perpetuate the victimhood instead of actually doing something about it.

Then we have the racist groups like the NAACP who sue to segregate themselves so that they could practice the same time of division and racism that they preach against. We have the "historically black colleges", basically racist institutions because by definition they are exclusive to black people. Your skin has to be a certain color to attend. They are basically black supremremecist colleges that don't want people with other skin colors to attend.
Then these same people have the gall to complain that there is too much segregation in society and we need to become more integrated. The same people that segregate themselves by choice turn around and blame white people for segregation.

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For some reason the black culture feels that it's ok to violently attack whitey without provocation because the think that they are owed something. But people don't like to talk about these documented factual statistics because it doesn't fit their victimhood narrative. They would rather blame it on whitey

The black culture changed a country through non- violence as preached by MLK. It disturbed your little world of white male supremacy. Your color and so-called physical attributes no longer establish you as superior to anyone. There are ignorant humans like you represented in all communities. You are in the minority.

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Our youth read in utter disgust. However,in our country, you have the right to express your opinion, which is often just that - opinion and not based on facts. I have benefitted from experiencing both segregation and integration. I have learned that not all white people are 'haters'. Maybe if you had been more open to integration, you would not have formed such divisive opinions. You will never be in the company of an achiever like Kareem and have the opportunity to compare his experience as an American with your experience . As a student at UCLA, he learned to continue to respect all humans regardless of sex or religion or color. He learned that skill has nothing to do with color, and under the tutelage of Coach Wooden, he learned how to be a team player. Regardless of political/philosophical beliefs, your bigoted racism is painfully apparent and joyfully acknowledged as a fading remnant of the past. By the way, I still cross the street when I see a bald headed white youth. In my world, they are just as frightening as 'black thugs' in your world. Most of us don't consider shooting either one.

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You did not refute the facts that I presented regarding the black on white crime and the segregation perpetuated by the NAACP and the historically black colleges. I am all in favor of integration and live in an integrated neighborhood. The victimhood mantra is really getting old, Alice. You and your brother Al need to find another schtick. The youth of America are not in disgust, they are too busy playing the "knock-out game" and robbing people instead of trying to better themselves.

Remember, you are far more likely to be attacked by a black person than a white person, so chances are that bald guy is harmless unless he has a schwastika tatooed on his arm.

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This site, from which you gather your hate filled message, has been shut down. It is bigoted and racist in its attempt to classify all 'blacks' as thugs. You are a bigoted racist living in an integrated neighborhood (according to your words). If the NAACP was preaching a message to distrust all whites, it would also be classified as racist. In my understanding of the hate of the NAACP in this area, it is because it changed a way of life that many were comfortable with and many were not. Equal opportunity for blacks was not a way of life in the 'old south' . In Fayette County, the NAACP used the VRA to obtain a person of their choice to represent them on two governing organizations. Their choice for District 5 is a 'white man'.

Crime is a problem in undereducated, poor communities and communities throughout our country. If we continue to classify the problem as a 'racial' problem as the White Supremist media you use for your facts preaches- we will continue to be viewed as 'racist' by the rest of the world . Keep talking Fred Garvin. There are not too many of your ilk around in Fayette County.

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I didn't get the statistical facts regarding the ultra-high level of violent crimes by blacks from the site you mentioned, however the site is not racist and it is not shut down. You lie again, and you're lying almost as much as that sack-itch Obama does. You just can't handle the facts because they Don't fit your racist narrative. The NAACP (local hate-filled racist group) sued to get a black person elected, but your own democrat party yanked their nomination out from underneath them because they too are racist hypocrites like yourself.

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Is the issue of the VRA controversy in Fayette County. There are cogent arguments on both sides of the Districtwide voting issue. You are one of the few who has difficulty expressing their opinion without 'hate'.

The BOE under Mr. Presbergs leadership and participation has been cooperative with the other members of the BOE on issues except for this VRA concern. Those who have attended the meetings are well aware that the current BOE has the interest of FC students and staff at heart. It would be racist for the NAACP to promote anyone over the record of Mr. Presberg. His actions during his tenure have been in tune not only with the community of District 5 - but the entire FC community. You sir/madam are the racist in this scenario. Keep posting. It is very revealing.

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As Fred Garvin has stated, this site is not racist. It was temporarily shut down - but low and behold, those who believe in the freedom of speech - as I do - saw to it that it was operational. (The shut down may have been caused by 'hackers'. Mr. Garvin, won't you share where you received your statistical information? I'm sorry for calling this site 'racist' - I don't know what got into me.

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however the site is not racist and it is not shut down. You lie again, and you're lying almost as much as that sack-itch Obama does.

http://www.newnation.org/NNN-hatecrimes.html

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Fayette's own Alice Sharpton lies yet again

What does the truth matter when you can just make up crap, eh Alice. The quote from my earlier post was from "The Examiner", which is a newspaper. The Examiner was quoting a study by the "New Century Foundation", not New Nation.

You are a liar, just like the crap-weasel obama. You make stuff because of your inherent hatred of white people.

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NEW CENTURY FOUNDATION

The New Century Foundation is an organization founded in 1994 known primarily for publishing American Renaissance. From 1994 to 1999 its activities received considerable funding by the Pioneer Fund,[1][2][3] and has been described as a white supremacist group,[4] which its founder, Jared Taylor, denies, calling it white separatist.
Taylor advocates segregation as a natural expression of racial solidarity while denying that his views constitute white supremacism. Viewing societal problems as racial in nature, Taylor upholds white racial homogeneity as the key to peaceful coexistence. He sees Japan as an exemplar of a racially homogenous society, and views Asians generally as genetically superior in intelligence to whites. He also view whites as genetically superior in intelligence to blacks.[5][6]

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Thanks for sharing your sources of information.

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I did not quote this organization, I quoted FACTS from an article in the Examiner, which is a news site. The article quotes statistics that have been verified by the FBI’s NCVS, National Crime Victimization Survey, and The Department of Justice’s UCR, Uniform Crime Reports, FBI Communication’s Division. You like to attack the source rather than the facts, because you don't like what the facts are. You would rather bury your head in the sand and call the messengers racists. Is the DOJ and FBI racist? (Well, we all know Eric Holder is, but that is a whole other matter.)

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Fred Garvin's 'facts'

Disputed.

http://www.timwise.org/2013/08/race-crime-and-statistical-malpractice-ho...

There are also two sides to a story. Fred Garvin has his purpose. There is no need to fear in FC. Many are coming to our communities from Pinewood and academic organizations. All are welcome. Take time to observe Fayette County citizens in our stores; restaurants; etc. We are a county of diverse Americans.

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He transferred his ownership to his future former wife

and she is trying to sell them. Kind of unfair that she is forced to sell her share because of something she had nothing to do with, but those are the rules.

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Now, now Alice

We all know that you are a proud card carrying member of the racist hate group otherwise known as the NAACP. It's truly sad that you and your bother Al "Tawana Brawley" Sharpton hate white people so much.

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I pray daily to know the truth that all 'white' people are not of your ilk. Fortunately I have met an abundance of citizens in Fayette County and the south who do not represent your fear and hatred of those who are not of your gender and/or color. - whatever that may be.

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Don't need anybody outing anybody here, do we? I don't publish my first name, please don't guess it or "know" it, thanks!

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RWM,your pucker from those sour grapes are showing.

Just think, you can always find some one running or who is in office to bash. Much easier to bash from the sidelines and have all the answers than to jump in there and put yourself up for scrutiny isn't it? Not expecially a big Steve Brown fan but how do you know if all the rest of the 'great unwashed' had voted that their vote would not have been for Brown? Evidently somebody(ies)out there likes him.